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Augustus, Elector of Saxony, the duke hai ibree imperial house of Russia. His only son was promore sons, only one of whom, Joachim Ernest, claimed czar, by the title of Peter III., in 1672, left issue, and his male line became extinct in 1761. upon the death of the Empress Elizabeth.

The descendants in the male line of Christian The great-great-grandson and representative of III., King of Denmark, therefore resolve them- Peter III. at the present time, as every one knows, selves, first, into the line of Schleswig Holstein is His Imperial Majesty Alexander III., Czar of Sonderburg Augustenberg, represented by Duke all the Russias, and every member of the imperial Ernest Gonther, who is the heir male of that house (including H.R. and I.H. the Duchess of monarch and head of the House of Oldenburg; Edinburgb) is descended from Charles Frederick, and, secondly, into that of Schleswig Holstein Duke of Holstein Gottorp, who died Jan. 18, 1739. Sonderburg Glücksburg, represented by Duke Prince Christian Augustus, the second and Frederick Ferdinand. The Kings of Denmark and youngest son of Duke Christian Albert (who died Greece and our Princess of Wales belong to this in 1694), was made regent of Holstein upon the branch of the family.

death of his brother in 1702. He died April 25, King Frederick I. had two wives, viz., Anne, 1726, having married Albertina Frederica, daughter daughter of John, Elector of Brandenburg (shé of Frederick Magnus, Margrave of Baden Durlack, died in 1514, before her husband became king), by whom he had six sons. The three elder, viz., and Sophia, daughter of Bogislas, Duke of Pome-|(1) Charles, (2) Adolphus Frederick, and (3) rania. His successor, Christian III., was his only Frederick Augustus, became successively Bishops son by his first wife. By Sophia he bad three of Lubeck. Charles died s.p. in 1772, having resons, of whom the second, Adolphus, Duke of signed the see to his brother Adolphus Frederick Holstein Gottorp, alone left issue.

in 1727, the latter being then seventeen years of Duke Adolphus died Oct. 1, 1586, having mar- age. This prince was elected King of Sweden in ried Christina, daughter of Philip, Landgrave of 1751, upon the death of Frederick of Hesse, and was Hesse, and left four sons, viz., (i) Frederick, (2) succeeded on the throne in 1771 by his eldest son, Philip, (3) John Adolphus, and (4) John Frederick, Gustavus III., the chivalrous monarch who en Bishop of Lubeck, who died s.p. in 1634. The deavoured to rescue Louis XVI. and Queen Marie eldest succeeded his father, and died s.p. in 1587. Antoinette from their fate, and who himself fell The next brother, Philip, who then became duke, beneath the hand of the assassin in 1792. He also died s.p. in 1596. The third son, John married the Princess Sophia Magdalene of Dep. Adolphus, succeeded him. He died March 31, mark, the granddaughter of King George II. of 1616, having married the Princess Augusta of England, and by her had an only surviving son, Denmark, daughter of King Frederick II. (and who succeeded him as Gustavus IV. The new sister of our Queen Anne, wife of James I.), by sovereign was, however, forced to abdicate in 1809 whom he left three song. The eldest, Frederick, in favour of his uncle Charles, the only surviving succeeded him as Dake of Holstein Gottorp, the brother of King Gustavus III.

This prince second, Adolf, died s.p. in 1631, and the third, reigned as Charles XIII. until Feb. 5, 1818, when John, died in 1655, leaving an only surviving son, he died without issue, and the crowns of Sweden John Augustus, who died s.p. in 1686.

and Norway passed to the present reigning house Duke Frederick died Aug. 10, 1659, leaving by

of Bernadotte. his wife, Mary Elizabeth, daughter of John George

H. MURRAY LANE, Chester Herald. I., Elector of Saxony, two sons (the only survivors

(To be continued.) of eight), viz., Christian Albert and Augustus Frederick, who died s.p. in 1698. The elder of these, Christian Albert, succeeded

TWICE KNIGHTED. - The following singular

his father as duke. He died Dec. 27, 1694, having originally in Truth and is now going the round of

incident, described in a paragraph which appeared married the Princess Frederica Amelia, second daughter of Frederick III., King of Denmark the daily

, papers, should be duly recorded in

'N. & Q.':(and sister of Prince George of Denmark, the Consort of Queen Anne of England). By her he had invested Lord Herschell with the Grand Cross of the

At Windsor Castle on a recent evening the Queen two sons, viz., Frederick, who succeeded him as

Bath in the drawing-room after dinner. On these Duke of Holstein Gottorp, and Christian Augustus, occasions the Queen is always very rapid in her moveof whom presently,

ments, and Lord Herschell having sunk on bis knee to be Frederick (called the Fourth) was killed at the invested, he received the honour of knighthood' before Battle of Klipsow, July 19, 1702. By his wife, 100ked the fact that Lord Herschell was knighted in

any one could interfere. The Queen had quite overHedwig Sophia, eldest daughter of Charles XI., 1880, on his appointment to be Solicitor General, so that King of Sweden, he left an only son, Charles there was no necessity whatever for his again going Frederick, his successor, who married the Grand through that ordeal. It is probably the first time during Duchess Anne of Russia, eldest daughter of Peter the present reign that a man has been twice knighted." the Great, and became the founder of the present Not only is this the first time during the pre


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sent reign that such an incident has occurred, but \-forde in Domesday, and all are spelt ford in the I am inclined to think that it is a circumstance Plantagenet documents, though in three cases the altogether unique in the annals of knighthood. In alternative spelling forth has crept in before the end the case of knights promoted to the rank of knights of this period. It is only when we come to the bannereta, a second accolade “under the banner" Tudor times that the form forth becomes more probably would be required ; but this can hardly usual than .ford. The date of the change can somebe regarded as identical with the foregoing. More- times be detected. Thus Spofforth is spelt . ford over, if I mistake not, no bannerets have been all through the Plantagenet and the early Tudor made now for nearly, or quite, three centuries. period, we have - ford in 1535, -forth in 1545, -ford

W. D. Pink. again in 1587, and -forth in 1676. Ruffortb, again, Leigh, Lancashire,

is invariably - ford in the Plantagenet time, but the

spelling forth occurs in the time of Henry VII., “EAVESDROPPER.”-Here is a good instance of and in the later years of Elizabeth we have “Rufof the way in which error is rapidly propagated. forth alias Rufforde.” We have Ampleforthe The following passage is taken from Chums, which, alias Ampleforde” in 1591, but before that date I I believe, has a large circulation among boys :- have only found .ford.

Eavesdropper...... The following account is given of It is worthy of note that in many cases the corthe origin of the term eavesdropper. At the revival of rupt spelling forth, which crept in about the Masonry in 1717, a curious punishment was inflicted upon middle of the sixteenth century, has now given way a man who listened at the door of a masonic meeting in to the more correct Domesday form. Thus, in the order to bear its secrets. He was summarily sentenced "To be placed under the eaves of an outhouse while it case of Aberford, Castleford, Bradford, Fulford, was raining hard, till the water ran in under the collar and Milford, we have returned to the earlier forms, of his coat and out at his shoes.' The penalty was in though we find Aberforth, Bradforth, Castleforth, Aicted on the spot, and the name has continued ever Fulfirth and Milforth as late as 1676. since."-Vol. i. p. 536.

I cannot agree with PROF. SKEAT as to the Alas for the truth of this assertion ! Shake- small value of the Domesday forms. We have an speare uses the word in King Richard III., instance in the case of Bringworth, which is called V. iii, 221 :

Brinesford in Domesday, a correct form, as I find Under our tents I'll play the eares-dropper. Brinsford or Brinsforth down to the soventeenth Probably the ‘N. E. D.' bas an earlier quota- century. Without the aid of Domesday who would tion for the use of the word. The origin of the have ventured to conjecture that Kippax meant term for a listener outside is sufficiently obvious. the "market ash,” Burdale the “broad dale," or F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.

that Butterwick was “elder tree wood) IR [The earliest date given in the 'N. E. D.’ is 1487.]

Domesday there are regular transmutations of

letters, and when these are once understood it is "FORTA”

" FORD."

”_(See gob S. iii. 410.) not so very difficult to restore the old Englisk - There are in the north of England a number of spellings. Thus Churchebi or Cherchebi regularly names in forth, which in Domesday are invariably represents

the modern Kirkby or Kirby, and represented by -ford or .forde. PROF. SKEAT, if Jotun normally represents Hutton, while torp and I understand him aright, considers that the Domes- burg are now thorpe and borough or brough. Of day forms are a

the etymo

course, very poor guide"

there are downright blunders; but the logy, as compared with the modern English spell- wonder is that, under the circumstances of the

ISAAC TAYLOR. ing, and he assigns as a reason for this conclusion compilation, they are so few. that “th was a sound which the Anglo-French

" CROSIER " scribe could not pronounce." In all these cases Fallow has just directed my attention to an

OF AN ARCHBISHOP.-Mr. T. M. the Domesday form ford

can be proved to be right, example of the wrong use of the word crosier, the present

spelling forth being usually quite which, from its extreme rarity and early date, is a modern innovation. Among

the names to be con: worth noting. It is in the letterpress accompany. sidered we have Ampleforth, Dishforth, Dunsforth, Garforth, Gatefortb, Hartforth, Hackfortb, Ruf ing A New General Atlas,' London, 1721,

under forth, $pofforth, Stainfortb, and

Yaffortb,'all in Dol, in Brittany,– Yorkshire, and they also occur in Durham and

" The Bishop has the Title of Count, and carries an Lancashire.

Archbishop's Crosier because formerly the Metropolis [sic]

of the Province." We can trace the spelling of these names by

J. T. F. means of a series of official documents, such as the Bp. Hatfield's Hall, Durham. Inquest of 1284, the Inquisitions of Knights' Fees of 1302, the Polí Tax Returns of 1379, the Nomina Roman BELL.-All of us who are interested in Villarum of 1416, the Feet of Fines of the Tudor bells and bell-lore must be grateful to 'N. & Q. period, and the Villare Anglicum of 1676. All the for the great treasure of information on these subfifteen Yorksbire names in -forth are spelt-ford or jects that has been stored within its pages. I

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would ask of you to find a place for the following do not cause them to be well baked in good and strong notice of a Roman bell. Perhaps some reader of pastye, as they ought to be that they may endure the 'N. & Q.' in Rome will send you a full copy of carriage the better. Thirdly, whereas you should by

your tenure bake in these pasties six score herrings, at the inscription :

the least, being the great hundreth, which does require Osservatore Romano informs its readers five to be put into the pye at the least, we find but fower that one of the veteran bells of St. Peter's, hig- berrings to be in diverse of them. Fourthly, the num. torically known as the Sermon Bell,' having suffered ber of pyes which you sent at this time, wee finde to be from the severe frosts of the past winters, has cracked, fewer than have be sent heretofore, and diverse of them and has been taken down from the belfry and deposited also much broken. And lastly, we understand, the in the vestibule of the sacristy, awaiting its ultimate bringer of them was constrained to make three several destination in the Lateran Museum. This bell was cast journeys to you before he could have them, whereas it in 1288 by legacy of a certain Riccardo, a notary in the seemeth he is bound to come but once." reign of Pope Nicholas IV., and was at first destined for

Upon which they promised more caution for the the Church of S. Thomas in Formis on the Colian Hill, future, and the subject dropped. whence it was transported to St. Peter's. A Latin jnscrip

PAUL BIERLEY. tion round the bell records the above, and there is the name of the maker: Guidottus Pisanus me fecit."

“INKHORNIZE.”—This word is not given by any Tablet, April 1.


of the glossarists. "Ink-born terms

mon expression for affected and pedantic language. HERRING PIE.—The revival by the Mayor of Thus, Churchyard's 'Choice,' sig. Eel:Gloucester of the custom of sending a lamproy pie As ynkhorne termos smell of the schoole, to the sovereign has recently attracted a great Bat I have never seen the word inkhornize used, amount of attention, and will no doubt be noticed

except in the old Martin-Marprelate pamphlet in the columns of N. & Q.' At this time, therefore, it may not be amiss to ascribed to John Lyly, ‘Pappe with an Hatchet,

where we find :draw attention to the custom which once existed at Norwich of annually sending to the king etc., whie, I know a foole that shall so inkhornize you with

“ If you coyen words, a: Cankerburie, Canterburines, herring pies. And at the same time I should be straunge phrases, that you shall blush at your owne glad if any correspondent will inform me when bodges. was the last occasion on which the custom was

Can any of your readers find another instance of observed. I addressed the question some time its use ?

J. E. SPINGARN. ago to a prominent official of the city, but he was New York. unable to give me any information on that portion of the subject.

SOLOMON O. EVESKE. The Close Roll of The account of the custom will be found in 43 Hon. III. contains an entry, thus sumBlomefield's “Norfolk,' vol. iii. pp. 375–6. He marized :says:

Acquittance to William Agoyllun, Constable of the “The rent of herring pies is the ancient fee farm of Tower of London, for 501. paid into the wardrobe, being the city before it was incorporated, when it was a great money which belonged to Solomon, a Jew of London." place of fishing, before the

foundation of Yarmouth, and Solomon C. Eveske, brother of the Chief Rabbi is still (1741) paid by the Sberiffs to the King; the city of the period, was continually immured in the Tower. being now in the possession of the Manor of Cartleton; Soon after

this date he was again embroiled with the which by its tenure is to carry the pasties to the Court." In 673 the pies were twenty-for

Crown, but fled to France. He thenceforward

in number, and were seasoned in the following manner : half a

appears on the rolls as “ Utlagatus."

M. D. DAVIS. pound of ginger, half a pound of pepper, a quarter of a pound of cinnamon, one ounce of cloves, an Tae FAMILY OF SIR THOMAS MORE.-Some ounce of long pepper, half an ounce of grains of years ago MR. ALDIS WRIGHT communicated to the paradise, and half an ounce of galangals.

public through ‘N. & Q: some curious evidence These pies were to be taken to the king's house relating to the family of Judge More, the father of wherever he was in England, and for his trouble Sir Thomas More, by which the date of the birth the bearer of them was to receive “six white of the latter (Feb. 7, 1478) was ascertained, and it loaves, six dishes of meat out of the king's kitchen, was shown that he had two brothers, John, born one flaggon of wine, one flaggon of beer, one trugs in 1480, and Edward, in 1481. More's earlier of hay, one pricket of wax, and six tallow candles." biographers had assumed that he had no brothers,

In 1629 the mayor and 'sberiffs received a letter and his latest biographer, Mr. Bridgitt (Life of of complaint on various grounds, and they were re- Sir Thomas More, London, 1891, p. 3) infers that quested to give no further cause of complaint, “ as John and Edward probably died in infancy. you would avoid further trouble.” The letter con- It may be interesting to some of your readers to tinues :

observe that it appears by the correspondence of First, you do not send them according to your tenure, Erasmus that one of More's brothers was alive in of the first now berrings that are taken. Secondly, you 1512. In a letter, dated Nov. 18 (1511), and re

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ceived by Erasmus at Cambridge from Andreas Sir Basil Brooke, of Madeley, is a somewhat Ammonius (not yet Latin Secretary to Henry VIII.), historical personage. He was son of John Brooke, who was living in London and had lately been of Madeley, and Anne, eldest daughter of Francis staying at More's house, the writer acknowledges Shirley, of Staunton Harold, Esq., and was grandthe receipt of a letter from Erasmus brought bim son of Sir Robert Brooke, Chief Justice of the by John More ('Erasmi Epist.,' viii. 25). And in Common Pleas to Queen Mary. He was also, a letter of Erasmus to Ammonius, dated from Cam- there is little doubt, the Sir Basil Brooke, of Lubbridge Nov. 27, 1512, Erasmus encloses a manu- benbam, in Leicestershire, who served as sheriff of script of which he wishes Ammonius to make a that county 3 Jac. I., and was M.P. for Leicesterfair copy, or if he cannot conveniently do it, to sbire 1607-11. In the reign of Charles I. he was ask More to give it to his brother to transcribe, very active in supporting the cause of the king complaining that at Cambridge (0 Academiam !) against the Parliament, being treasurer of the no tolerable writers were to be found at any price contributions made by Roman Catholics towards (Erasmi Epist.,' viii. 6). I do not remember to defraying the king's charges in the war against have met with any mention of the same person in Scotland. In consequence of his active exertions other letters; but we may fairly infer from these for the king, he and other Royalists were, on that John More, the second son of Judge More, Jan. 27, 1640/1, summoned to attend the bar of then more than thirty years of age, was living in the House. Not obeying, an order was issued on 1512, and acting as a sort of clerk or secretary to Jan. 11, 1641/2, for his arrest, and he was caphis more distinguished brother.

tured at York shortly afterwards, " at George Not having the edition of Leclerc to refer to, Dickenson's inne, the sign of the Three Cuppes, at I have given references to the folio volume of Fosse Bridge." On Jan. 25, 1641/2, he was Erasmus's letters printed in London in 1642. ordered to be brought from York, and imprisoned

F. M. NICHOLS. in the King's Bench, where he seems to have con[See 4b S. ii. 365, 422, 449; iii. 266.]

tinued until 1645 or 1646. In the propositions

a safe and well grounded Peace," submitted

to tbe king in July, 1646, Sir Basil Brooke is Queries.

named as one of the Popish recusants who, having

been in arms against the Parliament, were to be We must request correspondents desiring information on family matters of only private interest to affix their proceeded against, their estates disposed of by names and addresses to their queries, in order that the Parliament, and themselves to be incapable of answers may be addressed to thom direct.

pardon without the consent of both Houses. From

ibe Calendar of the Committee for CompoundSIR BASIL BROOKE.—Were there two, or three, ing' (iii. 2232) we gather that he was still alive in contemporary knights of this name in the seven

1650. The editor of the Visitations of Shropteenth century ? Metcalfe's 'Book of Knights' shiro' (Harleian vol.) is thus mistaken in supposing seems to name three, knighted respectively at his death to have occurred in 1640. Belvoir Castle on April 23, 1603; in Cornwall on

W. D. PINK. May 1, 1604; and at Dublin on Feb. 2, 1616/17.

Leigh, Lancashire. So far, however, I have been able to trace but two

ARMERIA.—Botanists have given this name to a only, namely, (1) Sir Basil Brooke, of Madeley, Shropshire, the representative of one of the lead species of Dianthus, or pink, and also to a genus ing Roman Catholic families of that county; (2) thrift. The French call the latter Armérie, but

of plants of which the common English name is Sir Basil Brooke, of Brooke Manor, Donegal, one the Germans call it Grasnelke, or grass pink, as the of the Commissioners for the settlement of Ulster. Hower has some resemblance to the nelke, or pink. This last was clearly the Dublin knight of 1617. The Armeria vulgaris is found commonly in pasHe died in 1633, and was ancestor of Sir Henry tures by the seaside, and grows luxuriantly in the Brooke, of Colebrooke, Fermanagb, created a Isle of Thanet; the Armeria plantaginea (a stouter baronet in 1822. In what way, if at all, the two species) appears to have a special regard for similar Sir Basils were related does not appear. An article upon Sir Basil Brooke, of Madeley, north than that island. But what is the deriva

places in Jersey, and is not found further to the in the Dict. of Nat. Biog.,' states that he was tion of the word Armeria or Armérie ? knighted" at Highgate" on May 1, 1604. Unless

W. T. Lynx. the knights of 1603 and 1604 were identical, this

Blackheath, date appears to be an error, the Sir Basil Brooke who was knighted at Belvoir Castle in April, 1603, H.M.S. FOUDROYANT.-I should like to know being expressly described as of Salop.” Who, where she is now. The agitation last autumn then, was the knight dubbed in May, 1604, "at (when she was sold to a German firm of contractors, Highgate ” according to the 'Dict. of Nat. Biog.,' resulted, if I mistake pot, in her repurchase by a "in Cornwall ” says Metcalfe s' Book of Knights'? Mansion House fund; but where she was brought


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back to I know not. There is a picture of her, by me to his bosom, and said, 'What are you tryin' to do?' the way, in the Academy_this year, 'Saved: I answered with exquisite politeness, "Sir, let us take a Nelson's “ Foudroyant,"' by J. Nelson Drummond walk down, Fleet Street.'” – Rudyard Kipling, "Many

Inventions,' 1893, p. 235. (No. 1063). I should also be glad of any interesting particulars connected with her history.

Did Dr. Johnson ever say anything of the kind? FOUDROYANT.

The saying is now as familiar as “Son of St. Louis,

ascend to heaven !” but is it any more authentic ? POCOCK.-Charles Montagu Pocock (born 1792) Do I sleep, do I dream, or are visions about, if served as a Lieutenant of Dragoons in the Peninsula I imagine that Mr. G. A. Sala confessed some and at Waterloo. I shall be grateful for further time ago that when a motto was wanted for Temple particulars of his career in the army, such as dates Bar Magazine he invented the admirable Johnof commissions, &c. He died in 1870.

sonian sentiment? If I am wrong, G. A. will BEAULIEU.

surely forgive me, and tell ‘N. & Q.' where the MURDER OF A SHERIFF OF MIDDLESEX.

saying came from. Some day an annotated KipNorden and Thorpe, in their 'Survey of the Manor ling will be required, and 'N. & Q.' will be conof Kirton-in-Lindsey,' made in 1616, writing of sulted by the New Zealander editor.

WILLIAM GEORGE BLACK. Somerby, an estate in the parish of Corringham,

Glasgow, near Gainsburgh, say that the owner, Topcliffe, had

a sonne and heir apparent who comitted a felonie, and PEPYS.—“My name, sir, is Peppis," I once was thereof convicted, and in the life time of his father, had the advantage of 'hearing a member of the had his pardon, and after comitted a seconde felonie, his existing Pepys family correct an unadvised interfather lyvinge, by killing the Sherife of Midd. in Westminster hall, and after that his father dyed, and the son locutor wbo had called him “Peps.Mr. Wheatley procured a second pardon, and so entred into the lande has recently decided that the diarist's name was as heir."

pronounced neither“ Peppis,” nor Peps," nor As this atrocity must have been of recent date

Peeps,” but “Papeg." I thought this prowhen Norden and Thorpe drow up this survey, nunciation had been fixed some time ago. Lord there cannot be any reasonable doubt that their Braybrooke cites the register of St. Olave's, Hart statement is true. I have, however, failed to find Street: “June 4, 1703. Sam Peyps, Esq., buried any confirmatory evidence for it. Can any one tell in a vault, by ye com'union table”; and adds: me what was the name of any sheriff of Middlesex “This is decisive as to the proper pronunciation of who was murdered in the latter years of Elizabeth ? the name." But was Samuel called “Payps" or I shall be glad to know the Christian names of these

Peeps”? When he was a young man, in 1656, two Topcliffes, father and son. I believe the elder there was published a little book called "The to have been Richard and the younger Charles, Scoller's Practicall Cards,' by F. Jackson, M.A. but require confirmation of this. Any facts bear. The author incidentally refers to the “ tinker that ing on this tragedy will be of use to me for a work can but tell his peeps at cards." “Peeps," of which I am now preparing for the press.

course, pips. If Pepys were pronounced as EDWARD PEACOCK.

the M.A. seems to have pronounced "pips," then Dunstan House, Kirton-ip-Lindsey.

Punch's "Mr. Pips' Diary" had a better title than

was perhaps imagined. W. F. WALLER. FRANK WHISTLER, THE PAINTER.-Any information will oblige.

W. W. WOOTTON, SURREY.- Are any particulars obtainALDGATE OR ALDERSGATE. - In the Kalendar

able concerning this house, its builder and its of an English Missal, in the Bateman sale, there tenants, before it came, in 1579, into the possession

H. T. is an entry that will interest some of your readers,

of the Evelyns ? and perhaps help to fix the name of one of the LODGINGS UNDER THE COMMONWEALTH.-In London gates : 3 Non. Octob. Dedicatio Ecclesiæ the State Papers of 1658–1659, there are frequent Sancti Botulphi extra Aldrichgate. There is a references to great personages exchanging lodgings, church dedicated to St. Botulf just outside Ald. or being given certain other great personages

' gate. Was there one also outside Aldersgate ? lodgings. Some of those so named were holding If not, Aldrichgate would seem to be the right offices, and others apparently not, at the time. name for Aldgate in the fifteenth century, the date Were these state lodgings ; and to whom were of the MS.

J. C. J.
such apartments assigned?


RUMBOLD Family.-Can any correspondent say but most I thought of the great and god-like man Green, Fulham, was in any way related to the re

"I had leisure to think of a thousand things as I ran; whether William Rumbold, who lived at Parson's who held a sitting in the north gallery of St. Clement Danes a hundred years ago. I know that he at least publican conspirator of Rye House notoriety ? would have felt for me. So occupied was I with these William Rumbold, who died May 2, 1667, was considerations, that when the other policeman hugged Clerk and Comptroller of His Majesty's Great

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