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Mary's, Dublin, June 18, 1730, the Rev. William Smyth, M.A., Dean of Ardfert and RALPH LAMBERT, Second Examiner in Archdeacon of Meath, eldest son of the Right Chancery, ent. T.C.D. Jan. 25, 1753, aged Rev. Thomas Smyth, Bishop of Limerick. | 17, m. at Lisburn Cathedral, Sept. 22, 1760, He died 1732, and she m., secondly, Harriett, eldest dau. of the Very_Rev. Prerog. marr. lic., 1738, Sheffield Austin. John Welsh, Dean of Connor and Rector Her will, dated Oct. 23, 1778, was proved of Lisburn, by Mary, dau. of Edward Peers. as that of Dame Susanna Austin in the by Jane, sister of the Rev. Samuel Close, Prerogative Court, March 14, 1780, leaving Rector of Donaghenry, diocese of Armagh, her property to her nephew, John Dillon and dau. of Richard Close. Ralph Lambert of Lismullen. There seems to be no record died Dec., 1761, or Jan., 1762, will dated of a baronet or knight named Sheffield April 5, 1761, proved Prerog., Feb. 8, 1762, Austin. and his widow m., secondly, the Very Rev. Richard Dobbs, M.A., Dean of Connor, eldest son of the Rev. Richard Dobbs, D.D., Rector of Lisburn, by Mary, dau. of James Young, of Lismany, Co. Tyrone.* She died March 25, 1784, aged 45. H. B. SWANZY.

III. Elizabeth Lambert, m. at St. Mary's, Dublin, June 11, 1730, Arthur Dillon, of Lismullen, Co. Meath (son of Sir John Dillon, Knt., M.P., of Lismullen), and had a son, Sir John Dillon, first baronet, of Lismullen; M.P. Wicklow 1771-76, and Blessington 1776-83.

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MONTAGUE LAMBERT of Dublin, Cornet 1st Carabiniers (6th Dragoon Guards),* Feb. 20, 1721-2, commission renewed by George II. 1727, serving in 1730, Lieut., 1st Carabiniers, in 1737, m.† Sarah, dau. of Samuel Waring of Waringstown, Co. Down, High Sheriff Co. Down 1690, M.P. for Hillsborough 1703-15, and died 1740, will dated Feb. 16, 1739-40, proved Prerogative, Apri 9, 1740, having had by her, who m., secondly, the Rev. Francis Hamilton, D.D., Treasurer of Armagh and Vicar of Dundalk, and died May 7, 1780, aged 77, buried at Dundalk, one son and four

daus. :

I. RALPH, of whom presently.
I. Grace Lambert.

II. Susanna Lambert.

III. Sarah Lambert, m., first, Bayly, and, secondly, at St. Mary's, Dublin, June 11, 1767, Robert Howard, Capt. 14th Light Dragoons, M.P. for St. Johnstown, 177683, LL.D., honoris causa, T.C.D., brother of Ralph, first Viscount Wicklow, and youngest son of the Right Rev. Robert Howard, Bishop of Elphin. She was heiress of her brother, and had a son, Robert Howard of Castle Howard, Co. Wicklow.

IV. Georgina Lambert, b. Feb. 26, 1737-8, bapt. at St. Peter's, Dublin, March 31, 1738.

* Dalton's Army Lists, and his son's matriculation entry, where he is called Dux.

† Burke's Landed Gentry,' under Waring, erroneous'y calls him Ralph Lambert.

Burke, as above, erroneously calls him Rev. James Hamilton.

GLASS-PAINTERS OF YORK. (Se 12 S. viii. and ix. passim ; x. 45.) CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF YORK

GLASS-PAINTERS.

I HAVE extracted this list chiefly from the
Freemen's Roll (Surtees Soc.), with addi-
tional names from other available sources.
The date, unless shown in brackets, is that
of the year in which the freedom was taken
up, generally at 21 years of age, excepting
during times like that of the Black Death of
1349 or subsequent visitations, such as that
of 1362; or in the case of a man coming to
the city from elsewhere, as, for example
John Thornton of Coventry (vide 12 S. vii.
482).

1313. Walterus le verrour.
1324.

Robertus Ketelbarn, verrour. He was
probably "one Robert " who in 1338 contracted to
fill the Great West window of the Minster w
stained glass at a cost of sixpence a foot for white
(i.e. grisaille) and twelve pence a foot for colour
Minster Library, fol. 3, from Reg. Ly, fol. 69, no
glass (i.e., figure work) (Torre MS. in Yo
lost). The window was paid for by Archbisho
Melton, who the same year gave 100 mar
towards the cost of the work.
at the west end of the aisles, contracted for at t
same time at a cost of eleven marks each, w
probably also Robert Ketelbarn's work.

The two window

1329. Johannes de Holtby, verrour. Holt is the name of a village a few miles from Yo on the road to Scarborough. The names of places from which these glass-painters came sh towns and villages in the surrounding district, that they all, with few exceptions, came from sm Burton Agnes, Bishop Auckland, Selby, Kir

* Burke's Landed Gentry,' under Dobbs, sta that the Rev. Richard Dobbs, senior, mar: Mrs. Lambert, but this is an error.

Overblow, Brotton Knayth, Darlington, &c. There is nothing to show a foreign origin of any of them.

[died 1337.] John de Preston (vide 12 S. viii. 485).

[1341.] Richard le Ferrour was Chamberlain of the city in that year (Skaife MS., Lord Mayors and Sheriffs; York Public Library).

1345. Will le ferrour de Bouthum. The name Bootham, now applied to a street, was that of a vill or burgh belonging to the Abbot and Convent of St. Mary's, just outside the walls of the city, and the cause of frequent disputes between the Abbot and Mayor as to their respective rights therein.

1349. Robertus de Burton Aunays, ferrour. Burton Agnes, a village about four miles from Bridlington.

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viii. 127).

Joh. de la Chaumbre, glasyer (vide 12 S.

Thomas de Byngfeld, glasier (ibid.).
Robertus de Wakeffeld, glasyer (ibid.).
Johannes Danyell, glasyer.

1351. Henricus del Mure, verrour. It will be noticed that in this year three glass-painters were enrolled, no doubt in order to make up for losses amongst the craft by death during the Black Death. The average number of freemen enrolled son of the Johannes Danyell, free in 1387. annually at York between the years 1339 and 1348 was 60. In 1349, however, 208 new freemen were entered, and in 1363, 218.

1351. Willelmus de Aukland, verrour. He was doing work for the Minster in 1371 and was Bailiff of the city in 1380 (Skaife MS., Lord Mayors and Sheriffs; York Public Library).

1351. Will de Preston, ouerour (vide 12 S. vii. 485).

1407.

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Willelmus Fournour, glacier. 1409. Robertus Bedford, glacier. His son, "Johannes Bedford, clericus, fil. Roberti Bedford, glasier," was free of the city in 1437.

1410. Johannes Thornton, glacyer (vide 12 S. vii. 481).

1412. Robertus Fournays, glacier. Probably an ancestor of Thomas Fourneys, glasyer, free 1520, whose son, William Fornes, glasyer, was free in 1551.

1414. Joh. Chambre, junior, glasier (vide 12 S. viii. 127).

1353. Edmund Mott, ferrour. 1339. Johannes de Selby, verrour. 1360. Johannes Archer, verrour. 1361. John de Preston, glasenwreght (vide [1417]. Robert Quarendon, working at the 12 S. viii. 485). It will be noticed that glass- Minster in that year (vide Fabric Rolls, Surtees painters who have hitherto been styled " "Soc.). verrours are from now until 1385 termed "glasenwrights and after that" glasyers."

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1368. Joh. de Kyrkeby, glasenwright. 1371. Will de Brotton, glasenwright. 1375. Joh. de Broghton, glasenwright. There village of Broughton in the parish of Kirkby, near Stokesley, in the North Riding of Yorkshire, so it is probable that John and Will de Broghton, who were no doubt brothers, and John de Kyrkeby (free in 1368,) all came from the same district. John de Brighton died in 1384, when administration of his goods was granted to John de Pynchbek, John de Kaayth and Adam Sommoneur, "being within the jurisdiction of the Chapter of York' (Reg. Test D. and C. Ebor., i. 78), so that they evidently Led within the cathedral close and not in the city. in de Knayth, like the deceased, was a glasspainter, being free of the city as a "glasenwright

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1418. Thomas Roos, glasyer. Very little is known about him. He made his will (Reg. Test. Ebor., iii. 374) on Feb. 8, 1433, desiring to be buried in St. Helen's Church, Stonegate. To his sister Margaret, 20d., and the whole of the rest of his property to his wife Katherine. He either died without issue or his son had taken over his business some time previous to his father's death. Henry Ros is mentioned in the Rot. Kemp as follows: "To Henry Ros, glasier, working about the palace in glazing panels with a figure of St. John, and other panels with (a representation of) the sun's rays and in mending the windows of the same at the west end of the same hall, 168. 8d." (Fabric Rolls of York Minster, Glossary, p. 349). He was probably also the " Rose glasyer who, in 1433-4, was paid seven shillings for glazing in the Chapel or Hall of the York Merchant Adventurers Company (York Merchant Adventurers,' Surtees Soc.).

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1418. Johannes Neusom, glasyer. One of a family of at least three generations of journeymen glass-painters, none of whom seem to have risen to have a shop of his own. In 1437, John Newsom was one of the witnesses to the will of John Chamber the elder, who was probably his master. His son, John Newsom, was free in 1442 and worked for Thomas Shirley (vide 12 S. viii. 365), and his grandson, Thomas Newsom, was free in 1470, and worked for Thomas Shirwyn (vide 12 S. viii. 407).

1378. Adam Sommoneur was evidently "a ner up and down, With mandements for fornicatun." and one of a class of whom, according to Chaucer," may no good be said." The York Minster Fabric Roll for the year 1421 shows that through the activities of these gentry and "by the various Penitentiaries" their employers, no la sum than £64 58. 74d. (equal to £1,000 present value) was raised in one year (Browne, Hist. York Minster, p. 221). A window in the nave represents the Penancers at work, in one light flagellating a man, and in another chastising a woman, what figures in the border pour money out of bags 1419. Johannes Berford, ferrour. Probably and masons carve stonework, showing to what one of the same family as Robertus Bedford,

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glacier, free 1409, and his son, Johannes Bedford, workmen, who at his death in 1451 left him 1s. 8d. clericus, free 1437.

1421. Willelmus Gent, glasyer.

1425. Johannes Coverham, glasyer. He was evidently the "John, servant of John Burgh," who is mentioned in the Fabric Roll for the year 1414, and later, in 1419, under his full name, which is coupled with that of John Burgh, who was presumably, therefore, his master. John Coverham's son Thomas was free in 1448.

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1426. Thomas Husthwayt, thwaite is a village near Easingwold, in the East Riding of Yorkshire.

1427. Ricardus Penbrygge, glasyer. He probably came from Pembridge in Herefordshire.

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[1431]. William Bownas, glasyer. The only information we have of him is that contained in his will (Reg. Test. Ebor., ii. 648), where he described himself as a citizen and glazier of York, dwelling in the parish of St. Wilfrid," in the churchyard of which he was buried. All his goods he bequeathed to his wife Cecilia. Will proved April 22, 1431.

(vide 12 S. viii. 128). In 1463-4, he was evidently a master, as his name appears amongst those to whom new ordinances were granted in that year. In 1471 he was doing work for the Minster (Fabric Rolls, 8.a. 1471).

1450. Will Inglysshe, als Richardson, glasyer (vide 12 S. vii. 323). JOHN A. KNOWLES. (To be concluded.)

ANCIENT BRASS ENGRAVING. SEEING that my note on the Stoke d'Abernon enamelled shield (12 S. viii. 428) has been received with considerable interest, it occurs to me that a few remarks upon the ancient method of engraving, and the kind of tools used for the purpose, may also be acceptable.

I have a photograph of the British Museum MS. from which Haines illustrated his comments on the subject, and am inclined to think that the sketch may refer to the engraving of a brass quite as much as to the incising of stone, for at least one of the artificers is apparently cutting lengthwise with the lines of the effigy. This method of cutting can only be employed in the case of metal. Incisions in stone,

1436. Willelmus Thwaytes, glasyer. 1438. Willelmus Cartmell, glasier. William Cartmell and William Bownas (vide 8.a. 1431, above) or their ancestors evidently came from the Lake District, Cartmel being the name of a village and Priory in Lancashire, and there are two villages named Bowness, one in Cumberland and the other on Lake Windermere. The work of the York glass-painters was as well known on the west as on the east coast, and many churches and abbeys in the Lake District sent to York to have their windows painted. Robert Preston, the glass-whether long or short, must be cut by laying painter, who died in 1503, left a sum of money to Wedrall Abbey, near Carlisle ; and Sir John Petty (d. 1508) bequeathed 13s. 4d. to Furness Abbey in Lancashire "be cause," as he said, "I have wroght mych wark there." In the little village church of Cartmel Fell, some few miles from the Priory of Cartmel, is some typical York canopy work. William Cartmell was probably the "William " mentioned in the Fabric Roll of 1443, and under his full name in those of 1444-1447, and again (or a son of the same name) in 1471. It is presumed he was one of Thomas Shirley's workmen (vide 12 S. viii. 365).

1439. Thomas Shirlay, glasyer (vide 12 S. viii.

364).

1442. Johannes Neusom, glasier, fil. Johannis Neusom. Free of the city by patrimony. His father, John Newsom, was free in 1418. He evidently learnt his business or was in the employ

of Thomas Shirley, who in his will, made in 1456, bequeathed "to John Newsom, if he be in my service at the time of my decease, 38. 4d." (Reg. Test. Ebor., ii. 380 d). John Newsom's son

Thomas was free in 1442.

1443. John Ley, glasier's son William Ley, parchemyner, was free of the city.

1446. Thomas Mylet. Probably a partner of Matthew Petty (vide 12 S. ix. 21). In 1463-4, he was one of the glass-painters to whom new ordinances were granted.

1447. Ricardus Chambre, glasier, fil Johannis Chaumbre, glasier (vide 12 S. viii. 128).

[1447]. Matthew Petty (vide 12 S. ix. 21). 1448. Coverham, glasier. Son of John Coverham, free 1425, and one of John Chamber the younger's

Thomas Coverham, glasier, fil Johannis

a wide flat tool along one edge of the line and driving the tool, by means of a mallet, into the stone towards the other edge of the line, and then repeating the process from the opposite side, so as to produce a V-shaped incision as long as the width of the tool. To attempt to make the chisel travel along a line in stone would break away both edges of the incision in flakes of various sizes. Thus the so-called V-cut letters are peculiar to stone and never found in ancient brass, save perhaps in the case of a fine stroke for which a single lengthwise cut will serve without any thickening up. There is little doubt that the earliest brass engraving was conducted in exactly the same manner as in the present day, and with tools the points of which were like those of to-day. The only difference appears to be that, in olden times, the larger sunken as those between the legs spaces, such

and sword of a knight (in late brasses such spaces not being perforated) or as in the field of a coat of arms, were cross-hatched with a V-pointed tool alone, whereas now a flat chisel may also be introduced.

A very small fragment of brass in the stroke of a letter, the cutting away of which was accidentally omitted, has provided a certain proof that lettering was engraved

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then as now.
In the Acworth brass (1513)
in Luton Church, recently raised from the
floor and set up against the wall, there
occurs in the marginal inscription the word
Timor, of which the accompanying print
is a faithful copy. In the letter "i" there
will be seen the fragment of brass referred
to. It has been suggested that this is but
a scrap of pitch or dirt collected in the in-
cision, but I have personally handled and
examined it on two or three occasions, and can
unhesitatingly assert that it is a piece of
brass not cut away as it should have been.
The importance of this discovery lies in the
fact that it clearly demonstrates that in
engraving the broad stroke of a letter, as,
for instance, the "i" in question, the crafts-
man cut an incision with a V-pointed tool

Danish ships, being of greater displacement, swifter, and steadier.

Some time during 897, six Danish ships raided the south, doing great damage all along the coast, especially in Devonshire and the Isle of Wight. Alfred ordered nine of his ships to go and attack them, and the English fleet discovered the Danish ships in a harbour, and, by sealing up the entrance, blockaded them. Three of the Danish ships were drawn up on the shore, the crews being inland, and the other three ships attacked the English. In the ensuing fight two of the Danes were sunk, the third escaping with only five men left alive.

in a most inconvenient position. Three of At this time the English ships ran aground them were stranded on the same side as the three Danish ships, the other six being aground on the opposite side of the channel. As the tide ebbed many furlongs from the ships, the crews of the Danish ships attacked the three English ships on the same side, with the result that seventy-two of the allied English and Frisians and a hundred and twenty Danes were slain.

When the tide again reached the ships, the Danes rowed away first, because the flood tide floated them before the English could push off (ascufan), the greater size and consequent heavier displacement of down one side of the stroke and then another the English ships requiring more water to down the opposite side, thus producing float them than the smaller and lighter two clean outside edges, but, owing to the Danish ships. The Danes were not able to narrow width of the graver, failing to clear row round the coast of Sussex owing to away the slip of brass between, in the centre of the stroke. This had afterwards to be cut away with a third cut down the centre, which is the precise process employed to-day. A general examination of lettering in many old brasses that have passed through my hands has confirmed my view of the early existence of this method of engraving. WALTER E. GAWTHORP.

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16, Long Acre, W.C.2.

A NOTE ON THE ANGLO-SAXON

CHRONICLE, ANN. 897.

their damaged condition. Two of them were driven on the shore, the crews being taken to the King at Winchester and hanged, while the remaining ship's crew, severely wounded, reached East Anglia.

existed as to the exact location of this

A certain amount of doubt has hitherto

naval battle. Poole Harbour in Dorset and a haven in the Isle of Wight have been put forward. It is suggested here that the battle took place in Southampton Water. The Chronicle states that the ships were stranded on opposite sides of the channel. This could not be the case in an open harPREDATORY bands of Danes from East bour. Southampton Water is approximately Anglia and Northumbria had been harassing one and a half miles broad at full tide, and Wessex and the south coast in their war-three-quarters of a mile broad at low water, ships which they had built some years the statement that the tide ebbed many before. To counteract these attacks, King furlongs being strictly true. The Danish Alfred ordered the construction of long ships must have been beached on the west ships, of a type which he himself considered side of the Water, because on this side the most useful. They had sixty or more the tide recedes fela furlanga. bars and were nearly twice the size of the

It must be remembered that there are

four tides daily at Southampton. The Eng-
lish fleet seems to have arrived about the
time of high water, and their attention was
so diverted owing to the fight in the mouth
of the Water that the rapid ebb of the tide left
them stranded on either side of the channel.
While stranded, the Danes attacked the
ships on their side, with the result that they
were beaten. When the tide again reached
the ships, at the most six hours later, the
Danes were able to float their ships first,
owing to their less displacement, and so
make their escape.
J. R. SPAUL.

Hatfield College, Durham.

(Mar. 25, 1823), he is described as "of the Lower Terrace, Lower Street, Islington, . Surveyor." He is also called a surveyor in The Builder (Sept. 4, 1884; obituary of Charles Lee). On March 11, 1794, William Williams married Rachel, daughter of John Lee of Islington (and sister of Joseph Lee, painter in enamels to the Princess Charlotte and the Duke of Sussex), but ob.s.p. June 10, 1833, and was buried at St. Mary's Church. A curious anecdote concerning him will be found in The Connoisseur, No. 170, vol. xliii., p. 94, while some account of his wife's relatives, more especially the enamel painter, was published in the same periodical, No. 197, vol. 1., p. 29 et seq. Mrs. Rachel Williams lived at. Cloudesley Terrace, Liverpool Road, Islington. She was born on Oct. 29, 1775; was named as executrix Quamvis cuncta notes, quae lustrat regna Bootes, of her maternal aunt's, "Betty" (Elizabeth) Vix reperire potes quam sine labe notes, Oldroyd's, will (dated Aug. 20, 1820; proved which are quoted in Abraham Fraunce's May 20, 1823), and died June 7, 1840. 'Victoria,' Îl. 2226-7 in the Professor's Her body was buried in the churchyard of edition. The same couplet, with quem, St. Mary's, Islington, but the headstone not quam in the second line (Fraunce's disappeared when the site was cleared for context required the feminine), is given laying out as a recreation ground. I have on p. 74 of Jakob Werner's Lateinische been told that the tombstones were then Sprichwörter und Sinnsprüche des Mittelalters mainly stacked in the vaults of the church. aus Handschriften gesammelt' (Heidelberg, Having no children of her own, Mrs. 1912). It is there taken from a collection of sayings in a MS. of the University Library at Basle, assigned by the editor to the first quarter of the fifteenth century.

A LATIN SAYING. At 10 S. v. 88, PROF. MOORE SMITH asked for the source of the lines,

EDWARD BENSLY.

A LONDON WELSH " FAMILY: WILLIAMS OF ISLINGTON.-The following notes, compiled from documents and memoranda in my possession, may interest Welsh genealogists:

Benjamin Williams, born at Haverfordwest (date unascertained), was a churchwarden of St Mary's, Islington, in 1797 and 1798. He died Nov. 4, 1804, and was buried at the same church, leaving by his wife Sarah (née Brindley; died Sept. 22, 1800, aged 56), a son, William. Whether Mrs. Benjamin Williams was a connexion of James Brindley, the engineer, I cannot say; but my maternal grandfather was in the habit of keeping an old newspaper cutting concerning him, with certain other matter relating to the family.

Williams was responsible for the upbringing of her nephew, Charles Lee (1804-1880), the well-known architect and surveyor, son of James Lee (1772-1816), of Islington. Two of Charles's sons bore the name of WilliamsCharles Williams Lee (1840-1901) and my grandfather, Sydney Williams Lee (1841-1917). F. GORDON ROE.

Arts Club, Dover Street, W.1.

Queries.

WE must request correspondents desiring ir formation on family matters of only private interest to affix their names and addresses to their querie in order that answers may be sent to them direct

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STROUD GREEN.-What justification is there for Sir Laurence Gomme's equation. Stanestaple Stroud Green," stated but unexplained in his Governance of London,' p. 411? If there be no justification for this identity, where indeed was the DomesWilliam Williams (son of Benjamin) was day Estate, held by the Canons of St. Paul's'. born on April 27, 1770, at the house situate When does the present name of "Stroud at the south-east corner of Britannia Row Green first occur? What evidence exists and Lower Road," Islington. In a lease in support of Lysons's statement, given withdated Dec. 25, 1804, his vocation is given out reference of any sort and in a passage as "Timber Dealer," but, in a later lease, in which he dismisses the "hamlet

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