citizen of London and a member of the Skinners' Company of London. Inquiries at the Skinners' Hall have failed to trace him, owing, I understand, to the registers being of a much later date than 1450. Perhaps some reader could assist me. F. G. B. BASLE TOWN CLOCK.-The late Henry Grey Graham, in his Literary and Historical Essays (London, 1908), at p. 73, writes of the bitterness felt in former days by the ancient and decayed, and therefore proud, part of the City of Bâle to the new and prosperous quarters, whose spleen was ingeniously displayed by the mechanism of the town clock, which on striking the hour thrusts forth a tongue from its face, as if in contempt and defiance of the lower town which it haughtily overlooks. When was this clock set up, and, if it be not still in existence, when was it destroyed ? Murray's Switzerland' (19th ed.), at p. 282, says:— Down to 1798 the clocks of Bâle went an hour in advance of those in other Swiss towns. This singular custom arose, according to one tradition, from a conspiracy to open the gates to an enemy at midnight having been defeated by the clock striking I instead of 12. According to another account, the clocks were put on at the time of the Council in consequence of the unpunctual habits of the Fathers. JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT. SAVIDGE SURNAME.-Can any reader give any information on the surname Savidge, as distinct from Savage. In old parish registers it has been spelt both ways in the same family. E. T. (née SAVIDGE). DISRAELI'SENDYMION': HORTENSIUS. -Whom did Disraeli intend to portray, in his novel Endymion,' by the character Hortensius. The late G. W. E. Russell, in his A Pocketful of Sixpences,' chap. ii., was of opinion that Disraeli intended his early friend Sir Alexander Cockburn, who became Lord Chief Justice. The late F. C. Philips, however, in his 'My Varied Life' (1914), chap. vii., seemed equally sure that Sir William Harcourt (who was also a personal friend of Disraeli for many years) was the prototype of Hor tensius. He FOXLEY, HEREFORDSHIRE.-I should be glad to know if there exists an engraving of the original red-brick mansion of Foxley in Yazor parish, Hereford, the old seat of the Rodd family, which was pulled down in 1717 by Robert Price, Baron of the Exchequer, a new edifice being erected in its stead. married, in 1679, Lucy, eldest daughter and co-heir of Robert Rodd, Esq., of Foxley, and the place remained the property of the Price family till the death of Sir Robert Price, second baronet, in 1857, when the title became extinct. I am told that the fine red-brick dovecote still standing is the sole remnant of the former mansion of red brick. Any information will be gratefully received. Essex Lodge, Ewell. LEONARD C. PRICE. PEARCE. Where is Pearce Hall in Yorkshire and what is the origin of this family of Pearce? Are they a branch of Peirse of Bedale and do they claim descent from HESPERIAN. the Percys? RALEIGH. I should like to learn of the connexion, if any, between the Raleighs of Warwickshire and those of Somerset and Devon. HESPERIAN. JOSHUA RUSSELL.-Can anyone give biographical details (especially as to places of education) of the Rev. Joshua Russell, a Baptist minister who lived during the first half of the last century? He wrote a Journal of a tour in Ceylon and India, and some other works of a religious character. W. H. W. S. GREATOREX. Anthony Greatorex was admitted to Westminster School in April, 1746, aged 11, and John Anthony Greatorex in June, 1782. I should be glad to have any information about them. G. F. R. B. HENRY GORING, son of Sir Henry Goring, Bart., was born in 1708 or 1709. He is said to have become a General in the Prussian service. I should be glad to obtain particulars of his career and the date and place of his deathG. F. R. B. MÂLE. Louis II., Count of Flanders, who succeeded his father, Louis I., in 1346, at the age of 16, and died in 1384, is generally known as Louis de Mâle (or de Malle) pour ce qu'il fut né à Mâle." Where is Mâle ? [See ante, pp. 38, 56.] F. H. C. 66 AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED.-1. He writes not if you won or lost I should be glad if anyone could tell me the "Ut parentum sic principis ac patriae seueritatem patiendo ac ferendo leniendam esse.' He ascribes them, apparently wrongly, to 3. Can any reader tell me where the following sentence may be found : 66 Christian, sit ye here and rest," or it may be "Christian, sit and rest awhile." GUNGA DIN. 4. Whence comes the dictum "Youth will be served" (or must be) ? H. CN. 5. Where can the following lines be found ?"Soul of my soul, I shall meet thee again, And with God be the rest." LEZZE. ["O thou soul of my soul! I shall clasp thee again, And with God be the rest!" No evidence that the Goldsmiths of Hull were been found. ever incorporated either by statute or charter has It may have been that their Guild existed by sufferance and not by direct authority from the Crown. Their remoteness from London and comparative inaccessibility except by sea would account for their immunity from intersmiths of Hull, as in many other towns, are found ference. In the seventeenth century the Goldto have been combined with workers in brass as "The Company of Goldsmiths and Braziers." Further information concerning the subject of antique provincial silver assay marks will be found embodied in this work. Sheffield. F. BRADBURY. According to Cripps's Old English Plate,' about twenty-five specimens have Browning, Dramatis Personae '—' Prospice,' ad come to light bearing various dates from fin.] Replies. DATE OF HULL HALL-MARKS ON SILVER. (12 S. xi. 209.) THE antiquity of Hull goldsmiths is very remote, probably late thirteenth century, and their work terminated toward the latter end of Queen Anne's reign. Silver articles to be found to-day bearing evidence of the Hull assay mark are chiefly spoons, and date of manufacture circa late seventeenth century. The initials on chalice and cover referred to would in all probability be those of Katherine Mangy, and date 1680. The provincial hall-mark date letters are of course very similar to those struck in London, but should be easily distinguishable on account of the accompanying marks of origin. 1621 to 1697. Many of them are in the possession of the Hull Trinity House. The Ulceby chalice is not mentioned. The Trinity House is stated to have a communion cup by K. Mangy, and another communion cup by the same maker dated 1695 is at Skeffling, Yorks. An exhibition of antique silver took place The collection was dispersed at Christie's in the Municipal Museum, Hull, in 1906. the following year, when a porringer weighing 4oz. 14dwt., Hull, initial letter A, by Edward Mangy, 1666, was sold for £137 3s. 6d. Oxford. THOS. SEYMOUR. 1. The original Hull town mark was H, but in the seventeenth century it was replaced by three ducal coronets in pale. 2. K.M. was the maker's mark of Katherine Mangy, whose silversmith's work is ascribed to the years 1680-97. 3. There exists at Trinity House, Hull, a communion cup with town-maker's and date mark identical with those described by CANON FLETCHER as appearing on the chalice and cover at Ulceby Church, Lincoln The Mangy family assayed their silver both at Hull and York. The first record of them I can trace at York is that of Christo-shire. pher Mangy, who took out his freedom there 4. Examples of date marks for Hull are too few to enable a table of alphabetical letters D, E, and F in cursive capitals, and cycles to be compiled, consequently, in the one Roman capital G. The letter E on the present state of knowledge, the Lombardic chalice referred to seems to have been used E of Hull cannot be deciphered with cer- any time between 1680-97, and the letters tainty. D and F were also used during the same years. 5. Sir Charles Jackson is of opinion that there never existed a regular Assay Office at Hull. It is to be hoped, however, that local historians will not regard this as final, particularly if the Company of Goldsmiths and Braziers, which once existed in that town, have left any records. From this your correspondent will gather that Katherine Mangy was the maker of the chalice between the years 1680-97. Most of the provincial Assay Offices had their own date letters, and there was no uniformity between them or connexion with will be supported from a glance at Jackson's the London Assay Office. This statement 6. I believe it correct to say that pro vincial date marks have never corresponded with the London date mark of the Gold-English Goldsmiths and their Marks,' or smiths' Company. From 1773 to 1823 the Cripps's Old English Plate.' Sheffield Office selected its date mark each year haphazardly, and in 1784 the alphabetical letter determined on was, by chance presumably, the same as the London, but in form they were quite distinct. J. PAUL DE CASTRO. 1, Essex Court, Temple. Sir C. Jackson, in his English Goldsmiths,' tells us as much as we are ever likely to know about the goldsmiths of Hull, who can be traced by records to the early period of 1427. They may have formed a guild, but were never incorporated by charter or statute. There is no evidence of any regular Assay Office ever existing. Four date letters have been identified: D, about 1680; E and F, 1680-97-these in cursive (script) capitals; about 1710, G, roman capital. K.M., was the maker's mark of Katherine Mangy, or Mangie, who may have succeeded, or been contemporaneous with, Edward, C. I. P. same surname. From the description of the marks on the chalice and cover given by CANON FLETCHER, I should say that the articles were made at Hull by Katherine Mangy. He might compare the marks with a communion cup at Trinity House Chapel, Hull, although on this piece the three crowns, or Hull town arms, is only given once. An example of the work of Edward Mangie, or Mangy, will also be found there. I think there is no doubt from what Jackson and Cripps say that there never was an Assay Office open at Hull; but that an attempt was made towards the end of the seventeenth century to establish a system of marking with date letters is probable. The examples recorded are too few from which to compile an entire cycle of letters, as those discovered by both these authorities reveal no more than the ARCHIBALD SPARKE. REV. ALFRED STARKEY (12 S. xi. 210). -I was fellow-curate with Mr. Starkey at King's Lynn (1857-60) and knew him intimately. He was born about 1832, was at St. Bees, 1858, ordained 1855, was curate at St. Martin's, Worcester (1869-71), and became vicar of Ryton-on-Dunsmore, Coventry, in 1871. He was an acceptable preacher, a constant reader and writer of both poetry and prose, and a skilful performer on the violin. Some years ago he sent me a copy of a book which he had written, entitled Religio Clerici,' suggested, I presume, by Sir Thomas Browne's Religio Medici.' When and where he died I do not know. Lincoln. J. FERNIE. SCROPE FLEMING (12 S. xi. 211).Arabella Edwards, by her will dated July 2, 1747, bequeathed the residue of her estate to her great-nephew, Scrope Joseph, son of her nephew, Gilbert Fleming, Lieut.-General of the Leeward Islands. The mother's name was Catherine. Gilbert Fane, the elder son, was baptized in 1727, in the parish of St. Anne, Sandy Point, in the island of St. Kitts, but I can find no mention of Scrope in the transcript of the register before me. He may have been born at the time his mother may have died in England, as the Governor remarried Nov. years keeper of the Land Revenue Re21, 1732, in St. Paul's Cathedral. Scrope cords," died Dec. 7, 1869, at Weighton was not mentioned in the wills of his father Road, Penge (The Times, Dec. 10, 1869), and brother, so probably died young. and administration to his estate was granted Portraits of John Scrope and Henry Fane to Sarah Ann Fearnside, his widow. (of Wormsley) are named, but they were only friends, and I have no clue to the parentage of the first Mrs. Fleming. Weymouth. executor. V. L. OLIVER, F.S.A. It seems probable that Jonathan Fearnside, who died at Brompton on Nov. 4, 1801, was the husband of the other daughter. in-law, Harriet, but of this I have found no proof. J. B. WHITMORE. FEARNSIDE (12 S. xi. 149, 197).-The following notes of administrations and wills WALTER WOOD of Devon (12 S. xi. 189).— at Somerset House help to identify the two Those who are working at the history of Fearnsides inquired for :North Devon families now have an oppor Sarah Fearnside of Blacklands House, tunity of consulting the collections of the Chelsea, by her will, dated July 30, 1807, Rev. John R. Powell ("Marland "), a local appoints her brother, William Fearnside expert in this branch of knowledge, who of Marsham Street, her sole legatee and died in 1920. Mr. Powell's collections, some She died June 30, 1811 (see contained in thirty-seven quarto Gentleman's Magazine) and administration volumes, were presented to the county a with the will annexed was granted to her few months ago and are kept at Exeter father, Jonathan Fearnside, on July 12, City Library. 1811, her brother having died in her lifetime. On Nov. 6, 1812, administration de bonis non was granted, on the death of Jonathan Fearnside, to Elizabeth Fearnside, widow, the sole executrix of the will of Jonathan Fearnside. William Fearnside had died in August, 1807, at Biddlesford, I. of W. (see Gentleman's Maazine), and administration to his estate was granted to Elizabeth, his widow. He is described in Hodson's Directory' as an artist. 6 In addition to the Chichester family, about which much has been printed, some of the names mentioned in the question are of more than private interest. The Bret, Butt, or Byrt family lived at Pillond in Pilton. One member (Joan) married a Chichester in the time of Edward IV.; another (Robert) was chief seneschal of Pilton Priory; and a third (Alexander) is commemorated by a brass in Pilton Church. He left land in Pilton to Bishop Woolton. Of the executors, Walter Berrell would not Jonathan Fearnside, the father of William improbably be connected with the Burrell and Sarah, died at Chelsea on Oct. 10, of Cheriton Bishop named at 10 S. xii. 423; 1812, aged 82 (see Gentleman's Magazine). Henry Downe we may identify with Henry In his will, dated July 1, 1812, and proved Downe of Barnstaple, merchant, whose Oct. 31 of the same year (P.C.C., Óxford, "Boocke of Memoryall' (1561) was printed in 454), he mentions, inter alios, his daughters- Miscellanea Gen. et Her., 3rd series, vol. i., in-law, Harriet and Elizabeth Fearnside, pp. 196-8 (1896). Bulworthie would perhaps the latter of whom is appointed sole execu- be connected with Thomas Bellworthy, who trix, and his grandchildren, William Gray was rector of Petrockstow in 1536. Fearnside and Farver Richard Fearnside. | He mentions various oil-paintings and HOLLOWAY (12 S. xi. 192).—In a biodrawings by Myers (Jeremiah Meyer, R.A.), graphical note on Thomas Holloway in Worlidge and others, and leaves his books The Western Antiquary, vol. iv., p. 183, the to his grandson, W. G. Fearnside; and mother's maiden name is given as Chellew, to my little Farver" he leaves a small and she is said to have been the daughter library to be selected by his mother from of a farmer at Trelyan in Lelant. M. his brother's books. The two boys and a granddaughter, Sarah Priscilla Fearnside, are residuary legatees. No mention is made of the father of the children, but as Elizabeth is made sole executrix it seems practically certain that they are the children of William and Elizabeth. Tarver Richard Fearnside, "for many M. UNIDENTIFIED SAINT (12 S. xi. 210).Possibly St. Arasym may be a variant form for St. Arsenius, an anchoret living in the fifth century and afterwards Patriarch of Constantinople, but deposed by the Emperor, Michael Palæologus. Arsenians, a party called after this saint, The were prominent in Church squabbles at LAURA BELL (OR THISTLETHWAYTE) (12 S. xi. 191, 234).—I wrote a rather full account of the life and career of this notorious lady who in later life "took religion and married Augustus Frederick Thistlethwaite (not Thistlewayte)-in The Sporting Times of July 17, 1915. The name of the novelist was Mrs. Kitty Cuthbertson, and the name of the novel (which I possess-2nd ed., 1809) was 'Santo Sebastiano, or The Young Protector.' The late Charles Jerningham ("Marmaduke") narrated an incident relating to a Macaulay did count the number of fainting ring given to her by Salar Jung-one of her fits which occur throughout the five volumes, many admirers-in The Gentlewoman of the total amounting to no less than twentyApril 14, 1917, which paper also reproduced seven, divided between four ladies and five the well-known portrait of her veiled as a gentlemen. Details may be found in chap. nun, which years ago figured in every shop in London and is doubtless still obtainable. I should hardly be disposed to endorse MR. PENGELLY'S statement that the marriage was an ideally happy one, as her husband had more than once to issue notification that he would not be answerable for his wife's debts. He took his own life at 15, Grosvenor Square, on Aug. 7, 1887. WILLOUGHBY MAYCOCK. iii. of Sir George Trevelyan's Life and One of the sweetest smiles that ever animated the face of mortal, now diffused itself over the countenance of Lord St. Orville, as he fell at the feet of Julia in a death-like swoon. An inquiry by the present writer on 'Mrs. Cuthbertson, the Novelist' (11 S. iii. 429), was fortunate enough to elicit a most interesting response, from a relative, I believe, of the novelist, the Rev. Wm. Ball Wright, Osbaldwick Vicarage, York (11 S. iii. 475). FREDK. C. WHITE. 14, Esplanade, Lowestoft. CURIOUS CHRISTIAN NAME: "FRUSAN " (12 S. xi. 211).-I beg to inform E. G. T. that in Wandsworth churchyard (also in Surrey) there is a tombstone to Fruseanna Phillips," died in the early part of the nineteenth century (exact date too illegible SIXTEENTH-CENTURY TRANSLATIONS FROM to be copied). Another relative, interred THE CLASSICS (12 S. xi. 190, 237).-2. MR. in the same grave, was named Susannah, LAWSON desires information about a renderwhich leads me to think these curious names ing by T. Underdowne, published in 1565, may be a combination of Frances with Susan of the Hermaphroditus and Salmacis tale and Susannah; or perhaps "Frusan is from Ovid's Metamorphoses,' iv. 285 sqq. short for "Fruseanna." ROBINWOOD. Is not this a ghost-book ? It is true that on p. 438 of the Cambridge Hist. of MACAULAY AND THE SWOONING HEROINE Eng. Lit.,' vol. iv., we find in the Biblio(12 S. xi. 211). --In chap. iii. of Sir G. O.graphy to the first chapter, "Ovid.—The Trevelyan's Life and Letters of Lord Macaulay' we read of Mrs. Kitty Cuthbert son's novels, in one of which Macaulay counted the number of swoons. It is not said, however, that he broke down in the attempt. As an indication of the thoroughness with which this literary treasure [Santo Sebastiano, or The Young Protector '] has been studied, there appears on the last page an elaborate computation of the number of fainting-fits that occur in the course of, the five volumes. In the table given, Julia de Clifford, presumably the heroine, lives up to her rôle with a record of eleven. Two other ladies have four each to their credit, and five mere men and one lady follow with the scores 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1. pleasant fable of Hermaphroditus and. Salmacis, translated by T. Underdowne, 1565." But this seems to be a mistake. At any rate, the D.N.B.,' in the notice of Thomas Peend, or De La Peend, mentions The Pleasant Fable of Hermaphroditus and Salmacis, by T. Peend, Gent; with a Morall in English Verse,' printed by Thomas Colwell in 1565. This was in fourteensyllable verse. On the other hand, Thomas Underdowne was the author of The Excellent Historye of Theseus and Ariadne' (1566), a translation of Ovid's 'Ibis' (1569), and the version of Heliodorus's Aethiopica' reprinted in the Tudor Translation series, |