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England, nor even in Guernsey, but it is good enough for the people of Scinde. Scinde is " a recent military conquest," and whoever heard of extending the principles of common justice to "a recent military conquest?" But the checks which were spoken of? Alas! like some extremely volatile substance, subjected to chemical experiment, they have disappeared under the process of examination.

The "Officer" grows quite pathetic in contemplating the vast amount of labour endured by the most absolute Governor of Scinde. The checks, we are told, entail upon him, “in addition to his military duties, an examination of courts-martial, which are quite separate" (we do not know from what separate); "the vast labour of reading,”—ay, and and not only of reading, but of " cautiously pondering over every trial that takes place throughout all Scinde." This, "when coupled with a civil, military, and diplomatic correspondence with two presidencies, accumulates a fearful weight of business on one pair of shoulders, and people are astonished at his (Sir C. NAPIER's) endurance." Well they may! Why the labours of old JOHN DENNIS, who sat fourteen hours a day writing criticism, till his legs were swelled to the size of his body, were nothing to this. It is clear that Sir CHARLES NAPIER cannot sleep. FREDERICK the GREAT of Prussia and a few of his courtiers voted sleep an unnecessary indulgence, and resolved not to give way to it. By dint of extraordinary exertion they kept awake, it is said, for the greater part of a week, when, one by one, they yielded to the influence of the drowsy god, and thus tacitly acknowledged that nature was too much for them. Now Sir CHARLES NAPIER must have the power which FREDERICK and his friends could not command, or— monstrous and irreverent supposition-he must perform some of his multifarious duties very hastily and very imperfectly. Think of the condition of Scinde in a military point of view, and remember that Sir CHARLES NAPIER is responsible for its peace and security; think, further, that he exercises all the civil and judicial authority that is exercised in Scinde, and then say how the country must be governed, unless the governor be exempt from the infirmity of requiring sleep. The "Officer," however, assures us that the most prompt and substantial justice is administered, not only in cities and towns, but in the most obscure villages in the country; and this assurance being unauthenticated by the name of any one, will doubtless be taken for all that it is worth. Even if it were attested by the signature of the Governor of Guernsey, some incredulous mortals might be tempted to ask, how does he know?

The mode in which justice is dispensed is illustrated by the "Officer" in a curious way. It seems that there are some complicated accounts between Hindoo bankers and Mahomedan chiefs, which it would be extremely troublesome to investigate. The latter, we are told, forced the former to lend them money, probably never intending to repay it. The Hindoos now, however, demand payment, not only of the principal sum, but of interest, and of interest upon interest, calculated at an exorbitant rate. We do not doubt that this is a new chapter of a very old story in the Eastin which the actors are griping, extortionate creditors on the one side, and debtors without a particle of principle on the other. Still the cases should be looked into and decided in the best manner that may be practicable.

Such is the dictate of common sense and common

justice. But not so thinks Sir CHARLES NAPIER. Terrified at the magnitude of the task, the Governor, says the "Officer," has been compelled "to cut the Gordian knot, and reject any contracts of an earlier date than that of the battle of Meanee!" This is a statute of limitations with a vengeance. The British Government has often refused to interfere to aid money-lenders in enforcing payment of loans from native princes, but did any government on the face of the earth ever refuse its aid to its own subjects in procuring payment of their debts from other of its own subjects, unless the debts were created within two years? And this, a specimen of the manner in which the autocrat of Scinde administers justice,-a specimen adduced as a favourable example by an ardent admirer and devoted champion of the Governor. The truth is, that Sir CHARLES NAPIER has not time to do justice, and so debts contracted before the era of the battle of Meanee are treated with a sponge.

This "battle of Meanee," indeed, seems to serve a great many turns, and to be worked extremely hard. WEST, the painter, was so enamoured of the merits of his own picture of the Death of General WOLFE, that he never suffered many moments of conversation to pass without some reference to it; "my WOLFE" was the standing topic. Thus it is with the dictator of Scinde and his pet victory. "The battle of Meanee" is with him the event of all events,-the epoch of all epochs. It is the central point at which all time is separated into two great divisions-that which preceded it, and that which has followed and is to follow. It is never absent from his mind, and seldom from his lips or his pen. Thus some of the creditors of the exiled Ameers having applied to the Governor for payment of their alleged debts, he is represented by his apologist as having argued, "I did not fight the battle of Meanee to pay the Ameers' debts." This is certainly very magnanimous and very magniloquent. The Governor says with Bardolph, "base is the slave that pays." He "did not fight the battle of Meanee to pay the Ameers' debts;" not he indeed; it seems that he fought it for just the opposite purpose-to refuse to pay them.

But a reference to the object of the "battle of Meanee" suggests a very awkward question. After all, why was it fought? What have we gained by it? A victory! This is well; but the fruits of the victory-what are they? We have possession of Scinde! True; and now comes the question of questions-what is it worth? Can the " Officer " give us a satisfactory answer? Let us see. "The Indus," he observes, "in consequence of its Protean nature, is still a doubt and a puzzle with reference to its commerce." And is it come to this? Is the Indus, which was to be the mother of wealth to all who navigated its waters, but an artful tempter, who seduces us to undertake vast toils, incur vast expense-ay, and commit great crimes, by visions of golden returns, which are never to be realized? Is it yet a doubt and a puzzle whether the Indus be worth any thing or nothing? The "Officer "says that it is; and we have too much respect for his authority to offer a word in contradiction.

To make up for our disappointment in the Indus, we have an abundance of promises as to what Scinde is to be some fine day or other. "There seems strong reason to believe" this; and "there are sanguine hopes " of that;-such is the Lenten entertainment substituted for the substantial fare to which we have been taught to look. We are told that "extreme patience is, above all things, necessary;" and

we sincerely believe it. Among other improvements meditated, one is the conversion of the rights of jaghiredars into fee-simple, which right they are to purchase; but we are compelled to ask with Gaffer Gray

Then say how may this come to pass?

For, in the very same sentence which announces the project, we are informed that the anticipated purchasers "have no money," and we infer not much credit, seeing that they are "all in debt." But we must not, therefore, despair. The flatterers of NAPOLEON declared that he could 66 command events," and we doubt not that the Napoleon of Scinde can command them just as well.

The "Officer" concludes his letter by a description of the mode in which the revenue administration of Scinde is carried on. Here, as everywhere else, the Governor is every thing, and the result is, according to the "Officer,”— -we beg our readers will not suppose the statement to be ours,— that "the revenue of Scinde far exceeds the expenditure.” So snugly are the affairs of Scinde managed, that we are not able either to affirm or deny the accuracy of this statement; but we may without offence, we hope, put a queryWas it the flourishing state of the revenue that induced Sir CHARLES NAPIER to revive the exploded system of transit duties a system at variance with all sound principles of finance, and which (excepting in Scinde) finds place nowhere but under the most barbarous governments?

Perhaps this can be explained, for Sir CHARLES NAPIER is not often at fault for an excuse. Like Hudibras

For every why he has a wherefore.

When our brave troops were perishing by hundreds from the influence of the horrible climate to which his recklessness had condemned them, he found out that the climate had nothing to do with it. The cause was in themselves. He wrote to his brother (and until the contrary is shewn we assume that he wrote for publication), that " THE GREAT DISEASE, WITH OFFICERS AND MEN, IS DRINK."

Thus wrote this high-minded and chivalrous captain of those who had won for him that "battle of Meanee" which is to constitute the beginning of the history of Scinde, and other conflicts, which as far as himself is concerned we dare say he has not forgotten. This libel was the reward bestowed upon them by their generous leader. Those who gave him the power of playing the despot in Scinde were, with just as much of truth as of gratitude, declared, one and all, officers and men, to be drunkards. We leave the officers to deal with the charge as they may deem expedient. It is said that the commander of the 78th Highlanders had a communication from the Governor of Scinde, denying that such a charge had ever been made, and adding, that had it been made, his Excellency would have been the first to contradict it. We quote this merely as a report which has been currently in circulation, but we feel unable to attach the slightest credit to it. There must be some mistake. It is simply impossible that any one aspiring to the character of a gentleman, to say nothing of his bearing the Queen's commission, could have acted as Sir CHARLES NAPIER would be convicted of acting if the report were true. We dismiss it altogether, but we must not suffer the brave, but unfortunate, men who filled the ranks of the Highlanders to lie under the imputation so unwarrantably cast upon them by the man who should have stood foremost in defending them from slander. To settle the question of

their inebriety, and consequent liability to sickness and death, it is enough to quote the following passage from the Bombay Times of the 14th of May last:

There are few regiments in the service less liable to the charge of drunkenness than H.M.'s 78th Highlanders. From the 23rd October, 1844, to the 6th March, 1845, there are only eight cases of inebriety recorded in the defaulter book: seven of the men against whom these were brought are alive.

Thus much may suffice to shew with what degree of consideration the firm of NAPIER BROTHERS carry on the trade of libelling. Surely the poor countrymen of the two governors forming the rank and file of the 78th have been doomed to lie under something worse than the "cold shade of the aristocracy." They have been exposed to the scorching slander of two general officers, which it is to be feared yet rankles deeply in the heart of many a bereaved relative of the unfortunate victims of the "conquest of Scinde."

We have no wish to dis turbthe immeasurable self-satisfaction of either of the Brothers NAPIER, nor to add to the notoriety which they so unceasingly court; we have never referred to them except when their names have been actually thrust upon our notice, and we should be quite content that the one should continue to act the part of a Bartholomew Fair NAPOLEON, and the other that of his bulletin writer, provided they would abstain from libelling better men; and here we should stop, were it not for a letter from Colonel OUTRAM to General WILLIAM NAPIER, which appeared in the Morning Chronicle of the 3rd ult. We have not space to examine the letter of the gallant colonel, but we cannot refrain from making a brief extract from it. The NAPIERS are (according to their own report) the purest of the pure-the most immaculate of the immaculate. They have a perfect horror of favouritism of every kind. We call their attention to the following passage from Colonel OUTRAM's letter, and we beg to invite such explanation as the subject may be capable of receiving.

I shall be silent on the subject of the shameless attacks which you have made on those in whose hands the administration of this vast empire is intrusted. In regard, however, to your charge of nepotism and favouritism against the Honourable Court of Direc tors, are you aware that on the conquest of Scinde, your brother appointed two of his nephews to lucrative situations on his staff? Are you aware that another gallant officer, since become his son-inlaw, holds an appointment on the staff, contrary, I believe, to the regulations of the Honourable Company's service? Do not misunderstand me. I do not blame your brother for providing, like any other man in power, for his relations and connections duly qualified, but with your horror of nepotism, you will perhaps admit that the Governor of Scinde has somewhat exceeded the fair limits of patronage by transforming two other near relatives, the Messrs. C-1-g, lately in the ranks of her Majesty's 14th Light Dragoons, the one into a deputy collector in Scinde, to aid in "the rigid and economical system of Sir Charles Napier, carried into effect by young officers selected by him from the army," the other into a captain in the service of his Highness Alee Morad-the latter appointment being, I believe, moreover, at direct variance with the standing orders of the Honourable Court.

One more statement we cannot pass over. Colonel OUTRAM declares that on the distribution of the twelve months' donation batta, bestowed by Government on the troops who conquered Scinde, Sir CHARLES NAPIER claimed 70,000 rupees, but was allotted only 47,000, the difference being checked by the military auditor-general as inadmissible!" Can this be?

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All that we know of these charges is that they are made by an honourable man, and we shall wait with as much patience as we can command, till it pleases the governors, one or both, to favour us with an explanation.

TREASURY WARRANT.-POSTAGE. The London Gazette of Friday, September 19th, contains the following warrant for altering the rates of postage on letters sent to the following places :—

First, that on all letters not exceeding half an ounce in weight transmitted by packet-boat between any of the countries or places following-that is to say, the Cape of Good Hope, or any ports on the eastern coast of Africa, the coast of Arabia, the Red Sea, the Persian Gulf, the Bay of Bengal, the Indian Ocean, any ports of Hindoostaun, Ceylon, the Mauritius, or the EastIndia Islands, and any of the countries and places followingthat is to say, any ports of China, the Chinese Sea, the Phillipines, the Moluccas, Australia, and New Zealand; or between any of the countries and places following-that is to say, the Cape of Good Hope, any ports on the eastern coast of Africa, the coast of Arabia, the Red Sea, the Persian Gulf, the Bay of Bengal, the Indian Ocean, any ports of Hindoostaun, Ceylon, the Mauritius, the East-India Islands, any ports in China, the Chinese Sea, the Phillipines, the Moluccas, Australia, and New Zealand (except between Australia and New Zealand), or between any two ports in any of the countries or places herein-before mentioned (excepting ports in Australia and ports in New Zealand), there shall be charged and taken one uniform rate of postage of ls.

That on every letter not exceeding half an ounce in weight transmitted by the post between any place within the United Kingdom, and any port or place on the Isthmus of Panama, (conveyed by packet-boat), there should be paid a uniform rate of British postage of Is.

That on every letter not exceeding half an ounce in weight transmitted by the post between any place (wheresoever situate) within the United Kingdom and Chagrees, or any other port or place on the eastern coast of the Isthmus of Panama, there shall be charged and taken one uniform rate of British postage of one shilling. And on every letter not exceeding half an ounce in weight transmitted by the post between any place within the United Kingdom and any port or place on the western coast of the said isthmus, or on the western coast of America (the sea conveyance being by packet-boat), there shall be charged and taken one uniform rate of British postage of two shillings in lieu of the rates heretofore payable on such letters aforesaid. That on every letter not exceeding half an ounce in weight, posted in or addressed to the island Heligoland, transmitted between any port of the United Kingdom and Heligoland direct by packet-boat, or private ship, or via the territories of Hamburg or Bremen (conveyed direct by packet-boat, or private ship, between the United Kingdom and the territories, of Hamburg or Bremen), there shall be charged and taken (in lieu of the rates heretofore payable on such letters) one uniform rate of British postage of sixpence; but the rates fixed by the first, second, and third clauses of this present warrant shall not extend to the letters of soldiers or sailors in the service of her Majesty or of the East-India Company, provided such letters do not exceed half an ounce in weight, and be forwarded in conformity with the existing regulations.

That all printed British and colonial newspapers may be conveyed between any of her Majesty's colonies without passing through the United Kingdom, by packet-boat, free of British postage.

And that all printed British and colonial newspapers may be conveyed between any of her Majesty's colonies without passing through the United Kingdom, at a sea rate of one penny each, which sum the postmaster-general may allow as a gratuity to the captain of the vessel conveying the same.

That on all printed newspapers (whether British, colonial, or foreign), passing through the United Kingdom, conveyed by packet-boat between any of her Majesty's colonies, and any foreign port or ports, within any of the countries, islands, or places mentioned in the first clause of the present warrant, or between any such foreign ports, there shall be charged and paid a rate of British postage of twopence; and if not passing through the United Kingdom, then a packet rate of one penny.

That on all printed British newspapers sent by the post between any places within British North America, and within the British West Indies, without passing through the United King. dom, there shall be paid (in lieu of the rates heretofore chargable thereon) one uniform inland rate of one halfpenny, without reference to the distance or number of miles the same may be conveyed.

That every printed supplement, or additional sheet, to any newspaper, for the purpose of charging the postage under this warrant, be deemed distinct, whether sent in the same cover with the newspapers to which it is a supplement, or not. That

printed Belgian newspapers may be sent from Belgium to any of her Majesty's colonies, at a uniform rate of British postage of 1d. each.

The twelfth clause states, that one printed newspaper alone,

or together with a supplement or addition, or any separate printed supplement or addition, or any printed price current or commercial list, shall be conveyed by post under the regulations of this present warrant, unless the same shall be sent without a cover, or with a cover open at the sides, and unless there be no word or communication printed on the paper after its publication, or on the cover of it, and no writing or mark on it, or on the cover of it, except the name and address of the person to whom sent, nor any paper or thing enclosed in or with the

same.

The other clauses relate to the powers of the Treasury Commissioners, or any three of them, to alter the rates as they may see fit.

EGYPT.

(From our own correspondent.)

British Hotel, Cairo, September 7. The Precursor has not yet been telegraphed; two vans full of our party, however, have already started for Suez, the first at mid-day, the second at four this afternoon, and a third is about to leave at eight this evening, and so on every four hours until the whole of the passengers are despatched for their trip across the Desert. Our steamer, the Cairo, arrived at the place of disembarkation this morning about four o'clock, after a very smooth passage on the Nile. We got in some time before the larger steamer, although she had half an hour's start of us, and were immediately packed into vans and trotted here, where we found very comfortable accommodation, and every arrangement made which can conduce to the comfort of the travellers-the charges very moderate; exclusive of wines, &c., we pay for board and lodging ten shillings per day, the charges, however, being the same for the broken period of a day as for the whole of the twenty-four hours. There is another, a French hotel, recently finished in very good style; they are both carried on more on the principle of boarding-houses than hotels. We are told that the Transit Company is a loser by this one, and only keeps it up to have the surplus passengers from the other, that travellers may not be frightened off this route to India, by the prospect of bad accommodation. Certainly, with the exception of the tide of people who come in every fortnight here from the east and the west, they cannot have much business, and consequently cannot be very flourishing concerns. We find from the superintendent here that a paucity of horseflesh at present is the reason of our being despatched in such small detached parties, it having been hitherto usual for four vans to leave at one time, and although every pains appear to be taken to prevent delay and give satisfaction, still there is certainly great room for improvement. The guide-books, of which there are so many, laying down instructions for this route, are really not to be depended upon; had we, instead of relying upon our own judgment, depended too much upon them for guidance as to time and place, in the viá Marseilles route, it is more than probable we should have had to spend a month somewhere between that place and Suez; for, as it was, we only reached Marseilles on the morning of the 29th ult. half an hour after the London vid Marseilles mail of the 25th of August passed us on the road. Of course at that early hour all public offices were shut, so our only plan was to get on board as quickly as possible, and as our passports were made out from Boulogne to Marseilles direct, we had not much difficulty in being permitted to waive forms, and in leaving them to be visied after our departure. The accommodations of H.M. steam ship Polyphemus were most comfortable, and every attention seems paid to the provisioning department, not to forget wines of excellent quality-we only wished that it could have been our good fortune to go on the whole way to Alexandria in her, instead of having to exchange at Malta. Somehow or other, the guide-books appear to forget that there is such excellent means of communication so constantly open between Marseilles and Malta. It would be an advantage to many, if the public were more generally acquainted with this fact, and also better informed as to the right periods of the sailing of her Majesty's packets. The distance between Marseilles and Malta occupied us three days-the fare, £9. Every attention and kindness were paid us by the gallant commander and his hospitable officers, and we left them, although after so short an acquaintance, with much regret. Travellers by this continental route should always have two or three days in their power, in case of unexpected delays. Not only were we obliged to stop at Boulogne for four-and-twenty hours, but also six-and-thirty in Paris; and in both places from the want of accommodation in the diligences, all the places having been previously booked. Three hours after our arrival at Malta we again left in the Oriental, which had been awaiting our arrival a day and night. These boats are comfortably fitted-up, but there are many things in

regard to internal arrangements, in respect of wines, meals, &c., which might be considerably bettered. They cannot certainly be compared with the French Mediterranean boats, in which the charge is only six francs a day, and which are carried on on the restaurateur principle. The company could not do better than take a few hints from our neighbours in this respect. One who has experienced the well-kept table and comforts of the old EastIndiamen, very quickly finds out the difference on board these modern conveyances; a general scramble for every thing appears the order of the day, and a meal is scarcely on the table (particularly breakfast) before it is removed; a quarter of an hour only appears to be the time limited, ere the removal of comestibles is judged necessary; and one or two individuals were rather uncourteously disallowed any thing for their morning meal, from the fact of their having only made their appearance at half an hour after, instead of nine o'clock. Although irregularity, and particularly on board a ship, should most strictly be avoided, still it should be borne in mind, that travellers pay highly in these vessels (averaging £3 per diem), and that they should have every consideration paid them, certainly more than there is in the present state of things. The prices of passages, particularly for married people, are something ridiculously enormous, and they attempt to justify them on the plea of the route by the Cape being equally expensive. As in other things, however, time will bring all this to its proper level, and the sedate inhabitants of Cairo will also then have ceased to wonder at the eccentricities and mad pranks of British youth in the shape of jolly cadets.

DEBATE AT THE EAST-INDIA HOUSE.

A Quarterly General Court of Proprietors was held yesterday. Previous to the regular hour of assembling, Mr. Peter Gordon placed himself in the chair. At twelve o'clock the Chairman (Sir H. Willock, K. L. S.), the Deputy Chairman (J. W. Hoggs, Esq. M. P.), and nearly all, if not all, the Directors, the secretary, &c. entered the Court. Loud cheers followed their entrance. Mr. P. Gordon still maintained his seat.

The CHAIRMAN, advancing to his usual place, requested Mr. Gordon to vacate the Chair.

Mr. GORDON did not reply, but still kept possession.

The CHAIRMAN again requested Mr. Gordon to leave the chair, amid loud and universal cries of" Turn him out," "Turn him out." A constable was now called, who removed the hon. proprietor from the chair, and led him to the body of the Court.

Mr. P. GORDON advanced to the bar, and addressing the Chairman, said, "You have no right to that seat, you have not been elected to it, and this is not an adjourned Court." The hon. proprietor here opened the door and attempted to force his way to the chair. The constable was recalled, who again put Mr. Gordon into the body of the Court. Order being at length restored,

The minutes of the last General Court of the 23rd ultimo were read.

The CHAIRMAN laid before the proprietors, in pursuance of the bye-law, cap. 9, sec. 3, an account of superannuations granted by the Court of Directors since the last Quarterly Court, to servants of the East-India Company in England, under the powers vested in them by the act of the 53 Geo. 3, cap. 155, sec. 93.

The CHAIRMAN acquainted the Court, that agreeably to the General Court's resolutions of the 7th April, and the 6th July, 1809, certain papers respecting the East-India Company's college at Haileybury, and their seminary at Addiscombe, were laid before the proprietors.

The titles thereof were read, the same being as follows:An account of the number of persons whose petitions to be nominated students at the East India College were agreed to by the Court of Directors, from midsummer, 1844, to midsummer, 1845, prepared agreeably to the general court's resolution of the 6th July, 1809, to which is added an account of the number of persons appointed members of the civil service in that period, who had been students at the said college.

Copies of the proceedings of the open committees held at Haileybury on the 13th December, 1844, and the 27th June, 1845, together with the lists of students who obtained medals, prizes, and other honourable distinctions, and the rank of those who finally left the college.

An account of the number of students in the East-India College from the 1st August, 1844, to the 31st July, 1845, and of the expense of their board and tuition, made out in compliance with the General Court's resolution of the 7th April, 1809.

An account of the expenses of the military seminary at Addiscombe from the 1st August, 1844, to the 31st July, 1815. The number of cadets whose petitions have been agreed to

or rejected between the 24th September, 1844, and 24th September, 1845.

The CHAIRMAN then called on Mr. Sullivan, when

Mr. Sergeant GASELEE rose: he wished to address the Court on a question of privilege; he wished to complain of the conduct of the directors who had excluded the public from the gallery; he was surprised at the secresy with which this was done. If custom or long standing was any thing, he contended that the directors had no power to exclnde the public from the general quarterly meetings. It had always been customary for the public to be present. Every one bad a right to be present; their charter gave every one a right to be present; the bye-law excluding the public was void, inasmuch as it was opposed to the charter; that Court was the parliament of India, and as such the public had a right to be present. He felt also certain that the chairman of the company had no authority to preside at their quarterly meeting. Ex officio he had no more right to fill the chair on such occasions than any one of the proprietors of East-India Stock who might happen to be present. The pro prietors in that court were equal in all respects to the directors: and it was not because they entrenched themselves within a circle, that they were to say they had an exclusive right. After some further remarks, the hon. proprietor said that he believed that the order given by the directors, refusing admission to strangers, was illegal, and moved a resolution to that effect. He believed the directors were liable to an action at law for excluding strangers from the Court.

A PROPRIETOR said, when he attempted to enter the Court, he was stopped and asked who he was: he replied that he was a holder of East-India Stock, and added, "For God's sake don't arrest me" (hear, hear, and laughter). Now he wished to ask whether the deeds of the Court of Directors were so dark that they would not bear to see the light (hear, hear)? He cousidered the Court of Proprietors as the Commons' House of Parliament for the inhabitants of India, and depend upon it, if their discussions were to be carried on in the absence of the public, the fate of the company was sealed, and its downfall would soon take place; he cheerfully seconded the resolution, that the gallery be opened to the public as usual (hear).

Mr. MARRIOTT wished also to second the resolution for the admittance of strangers.

The CHAIRMAN said,-I and my brother directors have no desire to have the debates with closed doors, or to exclude the public. But circumstances have lately occurred that called for this measure. An hon. proprietor who usurped the chair has caused handbills to be printed and extensively circulated, in which he says that this is an open court, and that the public have a right to attend this court whenever we meet. Now, that being the case, it has been considered necessary, in order to insure regularity and respectability in our proceedings, to issue the order which has formed the subject of a motion. This order has been given to prevent the unpleasant necessity of turning disorderly persons out of the court. If this order had not been issued, we should have no guarantee for regularity or dignity in conducting our debates. I can assure the Court there is no wish on the part of the directors to exclude the respectable part of the public. Pro. prietors still have the power of introducing one, two, or any number of friends. In giving the order for the exclusion of strangers on the present occasion we have acted strictly in conformity with the bye-laws of the Company. With respect to the accommodation of proprietors on that side the bar, I beg to assure them we have done all we can; the size of the room will not admit of any very material alteration, The proprietors have met in the same way for a hundred years. Great men have discussed grave questions in this room with the same accommodation. We are anxious to accommodate the proprietors as far as we can, but we have a constituency of 2,000; and it is impossible to give further accommodation. After some further remarks, the Chairman said-If there is any doubt existing as to the right of a proprietor to assume the chair, let the question be referred to the committee of bye-laws.

Mr. MARRIOTT trusted the Court would allow him to state that the reason why he wished to second the resolution for the admission of the public was, in order to shew that he had no wish to exclude strangers. He had nothing to do with the hotbrained, crack-brained, and hair-brained notions of the hon. proprietor who gave rise to the present discussion.

Mr. G. THOMPSON was ready to second the motion. The rule of that room had never been violated by the public. They had committed no crime to warrant such an unjustifiable proceeding as their exclusion from the gallery. The Court had not a shadow of a right to exclude the public. He called on Mr. Lawford to give his opinion. He was sorry that he was not a proprietor of less than five hundred pounds stock; if he were, he would try the right of the directors to exclude

him. If they refused to admit him, he would go instantly to Westminster and obtain a mandamus to compel them to give him entrance. He called on the deputy chairman to give his opinion as a lawyer, and all respected his legal opinion. The House of Commons was an open assembly,-was always open to the public. They were, indeed, absent by a fiction, but were, in reality, present. With respect to the promise given by the chairman of better accommodation, that promise had not been fulfilled. The seats were very dirty, and one hon. proprietor had to wipe the seat with his pocket-handkerchief before he could sit down.

Mr. Sergeant GASELEE.-I did.

Mr. G. THOMPSON. -I will disqualify myself, and exclude me if you dare;-if you dare, I say. Three hundred proprietors have not the right to exclude one from this court. There is plenty of room for all; the room is never full, Do not, then, exclude our brother citizens and our sister citizens, for I observed many here last time.

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The DEPUTY-CHAIRMAN.-We have not the slightest wish to exclude the public from these courts; we are not ashamed of what we do or say here. The gentlemen of the press who are present will bear witness that there was not the slightest opposition to their entrance. The gallery was never intended to be open to all from the streets. It is an established rule that any friend of a proprietor, or even a stranger, if he will send his card to the chairman, deputy-chairman, or secretary, will be admitted to the gallery. An hon. proprietor has alluded to the practice of admitting strangers to the House of Commons. It is true they attend, but any one member has a right to have the gallery cleared. There must be some control in these cases. solely from our desire to keep order that we resort to these measures. I for one should wish to see the gallery filled with respectable people. The secretary has told me that he, when a youth in the service of this company, could only obtain admission to this court by an order from the chairman. This is not a new rule, but the revival of an old one. An hon. proprietor has said that the bye-law is void, inasmuch as it is opposed to the charter. I admit that a bye-law opposed to a charter would be void, but in this case I deny that the bye-law in question is opposed to any charter of this company. The bye-law before us is the byelaw of the proprietors and not of the directors; the proprietors made it a bye-law. The committee of bye-laws take legal opinion. on the bye-laws, while before them; and let me add, that I do not think this a fit place for legal discussions. A word before I sit down on the accommodation of proprietors on that side of the bar. An hon. proprietor complains that the chairman has not ful. filled his promise. We have done as much as we could. The room is not large enough; in fact, there is no room in this house that bas sufficient accommodation. We cannot enlarge the room. An hon. proprietor (Mr. G. Thompson) has said the room is never full; but on the discussion of important questions, the room and gallery are not sufficient to contain the proprietors. The renewal of our charter will soon attract attention, and then the hon. proprietor will see the room full. The greatest men in the kingdom have not been better accommodated, and yet have never complained.

Mr. TWINING on many occasions had seen the room crowded, and had never heard dissatisfaction expressed as to the accommodation. The directors, he was sure, were very willing to ac. commodate the proprietors as far as they could on all occasions. With respect to the exclusion of all sorts of persons from the gallery of that court, they were bound to consider that there was a difficulty, and it was their duty to support the directors in restoring good order. (Hear, hear.) He regretted that Sergeant Gaselee had spoken with so much warmth on the subject. The course of conduct pursued on the occasion was absolutely necessary to maintain good order, and harmony of conduct was requisite in the court, though harmony of opinion was not. The committee of bye-laws, as his hon. friend the deputy-chairman bad stated, always had legal opinion on the bye-laws while con. sidering them. With respect to the right of the proprietors to elect their own chairman, he would only say that the right to occupy the chair was never disputed till lately. He would appeal to the father of the court (Mr. Astell), and ask him if he had ever seen the possession of that chair disputed until lately. It had been acknowledged for a series of years that the Chairman of the Court of Directors was likewise Chairman of the Court of Proprietors.

Captain RANDALL would oppose the motion, as he thought sufficient time had not been given to the directors to make any material alterations for the better accommodation of the proprietors on that side the bar. They would recollect that Rome was not built in a day.

Mr. CLARKE thought there should be some control over the public in the hands of the directors. The public were admitted

into Parliament only by orders from members, who were considered guarantees of the respectability of the parties. The step taken was necessary by the conduct of some people lately. That court could not maintain its efficiency without preserving the utmost decorum and order among its own members. It was the duty of all proprietors on this occasion to support the Chairman. He hoped never to see the bar invaded by proprietors again. He regretted to see Mr. G. Thompson, at the last court, invade it, for he had clearly no business there.

Mr. WIGRAM had always, when a youth, before he was a member of that court, been admitted to hear the discussions by sufferance only. He remembered the time when there was always an officer with a book to check the proprietors as they came in. There could be no doubt of the legality of the bye-law, for at the close of the last century the whole of these bye-laws were revised by eminent lawyers. He had often seen that room crowded. When he had the honour of being chairman, he was on one occasion called on to order some of the proprietors out to make way for the reporters: of course he had not the power to do so, but he mentioned it as an example.

Mr. GOLDSMID thought the Court of Directors had acted very properly. At the last court some people, ashamed of being openly seen, had skulked behind the bar and made a most horrid noise. He hoped that if the public were indiscriminately admitted, officers would be placed in the gallery, to turn out such disorderly people.

Mr. Sergeant GASELEE explained. He did not want to let in chimneysweeps, nor a set of dirty wretches, but he held that the public ought to be admitted. The board displaying the notice of exclusion had only recently been put up. It was not up yesterday. Why not?

The CHAIRMAN.-It was not necessary yesterday. There was no court yesterday.

Mr. Sergeant GASELEE.-The people are admitted now. Ι think the directors have changed their opinions. (No, no.) The CHAIRMAN,-I say again the public are admitted by orders.

Mr. Sergeant GASELEE objected to the bye-law being committed by such a bye-law committee as the present. He believed it to be void. He did not wish to try the question himself. He might be wrong, but it was his opinion that the bye-law was void. He thought two tables might be placed on the floor of the Court for the accommodation of proprietors, and when it was as full as represented by Mr. Wigram and others, which was not once in twenty years, they could easily be removed. It would cost nothing. He believed he had misunderstood, and begged therefore to withdraw his motion.

The CHAIRMAN then called on Mr. Sullivan, who was absent. He then called on

Mr. G. THOMPSON, who begged Mr. Sergeant Gaselee might be permitted to ask a few questions on an appointment to a high legal office in India, of which he had given notice at the last Court.

Mr. Sergeant GASELEE had not a copy of his questions with him, but perhaps the Chairman had the copy.

The CHAIRMAN (reading from a paper)." How many candidates were there?"-Thirty-four, I believe. "Were they considered of high legal attainments?"-Many of them were of the highest legal attainments and greatest respectability, "When was the appointment filled up?"-On the 23rd of July. Mr. Sergeant GASELEE.-One question more. cessful candidate appointed on account of his legal attainments, or on account of his relationship to any director?

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The CHAIRMAN.-On account of his high legal attainments. He was recommended by the greatest lawyers in the kingdom. Mr. G. THOMPSON then proceeded with his charges against Col. Ovans, but as the debate did not conclude until our paper was nearly ready to go to press, we are compelled to defer the report of the debate till our next publication. Mr. Thompson concluded by moving "That a select committee be appointed to inquire into the conduct of Lieut. Col. Charles Ovans during the period that he filled the office of resident (or representative of the British Government) at the court of Sattara.' The motion being seconded,

The CHAIRMAN said that he deemed further inquiry uncalled for, and felt bound to meet the motion with a negative. On the question being put, the motion was negatived by a large majority, only three hands being held up in its favour. Mr. G. THOMPSON then moved

That the following papers, namely: a minute recorded by Sir James Rivett Carnac, Governor of Bombay, dated June 19, 1839 (vide papers printed by the House of Commons, No. 569 of 1843, page 253); a minute by Sir James Rivett Carnac, dated June 20, 1839 (printed Par. Papers, p. 255); a letter from Sir James Rivett

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