or faint, and in early times he would have been more likely to attribute this feeling to something uncanny in the ground than to the colder and more invigorating air. It would appear, then, that a dry stream or ford betokened dearth or famine; high ground was bewitched, for it made a man hungry and faint. In the supplement to Alfric's 'Vocabulary' (WrightWülcker, 172, 4) is the curious item: "Fames, uel popina, hunger," as though a tavern or eatinghouse were sometimes called "hunger." Possibly, however, popina has here some other meaning. As regards the etymology of the word hunger, Prof. Skeat thinks that it is "probably allied to Sanskrit kunch, to make narrow." The original meaning seems to have been pinched," contracted," clammed, as they say in Yorkshire. S. O. ADDY. REGIMENTAL MAGAZINES.-I have long thought that it would be a good thing and in the interests of the service if a complete list could be compiled of the various military magazines and journals issued periodically by the authorities and officers of the regiments, and one that would not be out of place if published in 'N. & Q.'. With this object I send a list of a few of them, in order that a start may be made. I believe most of them are published monthly, and, in passing, I may observe that many of them are exceedingly well done and of more than average interest to non-military readers, for whom, of course, it is needless to say some catering takes place in their pages. The United Service Gazette (weekly). The Admiralty and Horse Guards Gazette. These are not strictly regimental magazines, as they concern both the services; but those that follow are issued by the regiments, and intimately concern themselves first and outsiders afterwards: Ours (19th Yorkshire Regiment). St. George's Gazette (5th Fusiliers). The Borderers' Chronicle (K. O. Scottish Borderers). The Thistle (2nd Royal Scots). The Black Horse Gazette (7th Dragoon Guards). The Thin Red Line (93rd Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders). The Highland Light Infantry Chronicle. The Sprig of Shillelagh (27th Inniskillings). The London Irish Rifles Magazine. There is also one issued by the Brigade of Guards. Perhaps other contributors may be able to add to the list, which by this means may be made complete and preserved. W. E. HARLAND OXLEY. 14, late 20, Artillery Buildings, Victoria Street, S.W. MANGIN. In a sketch by Catulle Mendès, entitled 'Les Chemises Fées,' the poet, describing a charlatan in a market-place, makes use of the fontanaroses qu'on est accoutumé de voir." phrase: "Il ne ressemblait guère aux mangins, aux What is a mangin?-which it is to be noted is spelt with a lower-case m. brated vendor of lead pencils, who, during the reign Mangin was the name of a celeof Louis Philippe, was accustomed to perambulate the streets of Paris, mounted on a chariot, attired in a flowing purple robe, with a copper helmet on his head. He would halt his chariot at some convenient spot and harangue the crowd on the merits of his pencils, and in proof of the strength of the lead he would drive the point of a pencil through a thin deal board. Albert Smith gave an imitation of Mangin in one of his entertainments, 'The Ascent of Mont Blanc,' and testified to the excellent quality of his pencils. JOHN HEBB. Willesden Green. WELSH CHARM.-According to the South Wales Daily News, 12 Aug., the following "charm" is said to be still used in Radnorshire: : "Take your garter; make nine knots and one slack one; tie around bedpost; put shoes or slippers in form of T under pillow; do not utter a word to any one; go The Queen's Own Gazette (Royal West Kent into bed backwards; undress with left hand; say Regiment). The Army Service Corps Journal. The 5 and 9 Lillywhite's Gazette (59th Regiment). The Men of Harlech (2nd Welsh Regiment). The Lancashire Lad (Loyal North Lancashire Regiment). The XXX (30th Regiment). The 79th News (Cameron Highlanders). I do this for to see Who my future wife shall be, Where she is and what she wears, three times over when tying garter and putting shoes under pillow." Two charms seem to be combined; and, to the best of my knowledge, in England they are usually resorted to by girls. For the garter charm, of. T. F. Thiselton Dyer's Domestic Folk-Lore,' pp. 86-7. With regard to the other charm, the custom in Yorkshire is, or used to be, to place one shoe at right angles to the other on the floor by the side of the bed and to say I set my shoes in the form of a T, Queries. We must request correspondents desiring information on family matters of only private interest to affix their names and addresses to their queries, in order that the answers may be addressed to them direct. ONGUS, KING OF THE PICTS: BISHOP WYLSON OF DRAX.-A runic stone at Bingley records a peace" made by Ongus and Eadburht at Bingley, and Bishop Wylson was a native of Bingley and Prior of Drax. I shall be pleased to have any references to these worthies, or, indeed, to any Bingley families, for the forthcoming 'Bingley; its History and Scenery.' J. HORSFALL TURNER. Idel, Bradford, BALLADS OF THE NORTH OF SCOTLAND.—I shall be much obliged if any of the readers of N. & Q' can refer me to a collection of Scottish ballads containing 'The Baron of Gartlie'. And he's ridden on to the weird sister's cave also 'Auchanachie Gordon '— Auchanachie Gordon is bonnie and braw, Madras, FIFTEENTH CENTURY ENGLISH TRADES.-I have at present in my possession the "Cause Book" of the ancient Tolzey Court of Bristol, the entries in which begin in the fifth year of Henry VII. and end in that king's eleventh year. Altogether the names of about 2,000 persons are recorded, generally with their avocations; but, of course, there are many duplicates. The entries are entirely in Latin, with the single exception of the names of trades. The scribe writes armiger for "esquire,” mercator for "merchant," and curvoyser for " shoemaker," but this exhausts his Latinity, and in describing all other persons he descends into the vulgar tongue, with somewhat annoying results to a modern student, for the terms he employs are sometimes exceedingly puzzling; and I shall feel deeply obliged if any reader of 'N. & Q.' will throw light upon them. I take chaloner to represent "chandler," and bellyatter to mean "bellfounder." Girdeler, I SWIFT'S LETTERS TO MOTTE.'-On p. 537 of take, under correction, to be "cooper," though it must Mr. Craik's 'Life of Swift,' 8vo. ed., the fact is be stated that in scores of cases a cooper is called a stated that Swift's letter to Motte (concerning the hooper. Bristol was then famous for the making matter of placing illustrations in a new edition of of purses, and "pouchmakers" are numerous. 'Gulliver's Travels') has never been published. the words purser and burser also refer to the same This is a curious slip in one so well versed in calling? Coverletway I should suppose to be a Swiftiana as is the compiler of that authoritative contraction for "coverlet weaver," but for the fact that in more than fifty cases the word weaver is memoir, which, perhaps, is marred a little by the invariably spelt wever. A still more curious trade attempt to establish a highly improbable marriage ceremony. The particular epistle from which Mr. is that of brigander maker, which occurs three or Craik takes his excerpt is one of the Original four times. And what can possibly be meant by Letters of Swift Addressed to the Publisher of cornall, relyeter, gora, and goight-all very clearly" Gulliver's Travels," printed at intervals in the written as well as furvo' and farvo' which appear thrice? Kerver, I think, must stand for "cutler." Can coffrer mean a "joiner," for there is not a single joiner mentioned in the book? The trade of pulter occurs once, but it seems doubtful whether at that early date a man could make a living in the distinct trade of a "poulterer." Finally, while there are many bowyers and fletchers, there are two gonners; and what could a gonner be in the reign J. L. of Henry VII. ? Bristol. Do "VIDONIA."-Can any of your readers inform me what wine or liqueur "vidonia" is? A short time ago I was in Mr. John Noble's shop in Castle Street, Inverness, and, looking into a case of old silver, I found a number of silver wine labels, and amongst them one marked "Vidonia." I asked him if he knew anything about the label or the wine, and he said, "No"; and I also asked him if he thought it was the name of some whisky distillery, and he thought not; and as I can gain no information about it, perhaps some of your correspondents can enlighten me. W. B. Gentleman's Magazine for 1855. These letters are skilfully commented. They end with an acknowledgment of thanks to a Mr. Preston, who loaned them. Who was this Mr. Preston? Was John Forster the commenter? J. G. C. TOLER OR DE TOULOUSE.-It is recorded in L'Art de Vérif. les Dates' that the Counts of Toulouse were descended from Fulcoald, Count of Rodez, 837, whose son Fridolind became Count of Toulouse in 849, and was ancestor of that sovereign house, whose services in the Crusades and whose ruin in the Albigensian wars occupy so important a place in history. A branch bearing the name and arms (the arms were a cross fleury voided) settled in England at the Conquest. Hugh de Toulouse obtained grants from Richard Fitz-Gilbert in Surrey, and, as his grandson, Peter de Toulouse held more than two fees there in 1165 from the house of De Clare (vide "Toler" in "The Norman People,' Henry S. King & Co., London, 1874). I should be much obliged for any information to indicate the exact positions of the pro CAER GREU: CRAUCESTRE.-In the 27th of the 'Trioed Arthur a e wyr' and in the Annales Cambria, anno CXXX[VI], we read that two brothers and chiefs of the northern Britons, namely, Gwrgi and Peredur, were killed at Caer Greu by a (Saxon) chief named Eda Glinwaur, forty-three years after the battle of Camlan. Caer Greu" the city of Creu," or, making the necessary allowance for change in spelling, "of Crau." Where is this city? In searching for it I came upon an extract made by John Leland ("ex rotula curiali Northumbria," he says; vide Collectanea de Rebus Britannicis,' ed. Hearne, 1770, vol. i. p. 200), in which one Gul. de Craucestre is mentioned by name. A superficial comparison of the forms of these place-names as they have been handed down to us would suggest that "Craucestre ": Caer Crau; but then where is Craucestre? The remarks made by Mr. Haverfield in the Athenæum of 8 August upon the word "chester" and its uses will have reminded all who have read them with special interest of the great need that we have of a list, drawn up historical principles," of ancient and modern placenames of the Britannias in which one of the ten forms of castra is present. = A. A. two old portraits on enamel of himself and wife beautifully executed. I have searched through lists of naval officers, but failed to find what I want. Is it known when he lived, died, and was buried? HORSMAN. JOHN CARPENTER, TOWN CLERK OF LONDON, 1417-38.-This eminent official, the well-known compiler of Liber Albus,' is invariably stated to have been M.P. for London in the Parliaments of 1437 and 1439. I would, however, point out that in the Blue-book return the M.P. for London is styled John Carpenter, junior, a description that could hardly apply to a man born probably not later than 1375, and who had then already served more than twenty years in the honourable office of Town Clerk. John Carpenter, jun., represented Hastings in the Parliament of 1442, the very year in which the ex-Town Clerk is thought to have died. There can be no doubt but that the M.P. for London is called "junior" to distinguish him from John Carpenter, senior, who in 1437, as well as in several earlier Parliaments, represented Portsmouth. Unfortunately nothing seems to be known of the parentage or family of the Town Clerk; but if he sat in Parliament at all I would suggest that he was the John Carpenter, sen., who represented Portsmouth, and that John Carpenter, jun., who sat successively for London and Hastings, W. D. PINK. was his son. Leigh, Lancashire. THE PIPER IN TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD.—In or about the year 1835, after reading an account of the piper in Tottenham Court Road, I took a walk along the east side of the road to see the figure. It was standing in a stonemason's yard on the south side of the New Road, within a very short distance of the houses at the north end of Tottenham Court Road. The place where it was standing is now occupied by warehouses and salerooms for furniture. Can any of your readers tell what has become of the statue ? D. R. "BURLY."-This is a trade term in the worsted trade. An action has just been tried at Leeds to recover damages for the non-acceptance of black worsted coating. The defendants pleaded that the cloth was not up to sample, being "burly." What is burly cloth? ISAAC TAYLOR. DICKY OR DICKEY: RUMBLE.-Having occasion " Kelvinside, Glasgow. Beylies. BEDSTAVES. (8th S. ix. 304; x. 80, 124.) My copy of the original query is at the binder's, and so I cannot refer to it. A bed staff, however, was, to my personal knowledge, used daily on my own bed during the greater part of last month (July), and others were probably employed in precisely the same manner on every other bed in the island I was then a chance resident in. It so happens that I spent the greater part of this summer's holiday on the island of Schiermonnikoog (pronounced Skim-monni-co). There I resided at the comfortable house of Capt. Rupt. D. Visser, in Voor Streete, Dorp. Dorp is a little place of about 700 souls, the only town or hamlet on the island. Most of the houses are old, the exterior iron ties often taking the form of dates, such as "1720" and thereabouts, and only three or four are more than one story high. My bedroom-as is general in Holland-was a small one, leading out from a sitting-room; on one side of it was an alcove containing the bed. This latter, as usual, formed part and parcel of the actual building, а common local arrangement, which, however, renders only one side of the bed accessible. In I"making" the bed, therefore, it is impossible for the operator to get around it, and so a bedstaff is used for the purpose of smoothing down the sheets, blankets, &c., on the further side. METHLEY AND MEDLEY FAMILIES.-I shall be very grateful if any of the readers of ' N. & Q.' can say where the pedigree of the De Methley and Medley families can be obtained. There is mention of such a pedigree in the Journal of the Yorkshire Topographical Society. The De Methleys were for centuries chief tenants of Methley, given as Medelai in Domesday Book. It would seem that the name was originally Medelai, then De Methley, then Medley. An old window in Methley Church is dedicated to Brian Medley, and I think the widow of Sir Thomas Grey, who was beheaded in the fifteenth century, married a Medley. In the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries a family named Medley held a good position in the city of York, and early in the nineteenth century a Capt. Outibridge Medley was drowned on his passage to Gibraltar. It would seem that a later deviation of the name to that of Meadley has crept in in the counties of York and Lincoln. Any particulars concerning this family will be most acceptable. MEDLEY. I happened to be in my room one morning when good, fat old Mrs. Visser was engaged in making the bed, and was struck by the dexterous and deft manner in which, from long custom, she flipped the clothes about with the stick in question. The latter, in this particular instance, was about so long as a walking stick, round in section, and thicker at one end than the other. polished teak, or similar material, and had an acknowledged place in the primly kept chamber It was of e., it leant against the side of the feet end of the bedstead. It was never used, however, as a stick to beat the actual "bed-tie." The latter, every other day, was taken off bodily and placed outside one of the front room windows to air. This primitive way of exposing bedclothes may be seen (outside England) even amongst the best When President Garfield was regulated families. shot, in July, 1881, I happened to be in Washington. The wounded gentleman was carried to the White House, and lay for some time in a bedroom on the first floor, just on the left hand of the main front. It was intensely hot at the time (100° to 103° in the shade), and the windows were naturally always open. It was no uncommon thing on passing to see the paillasse the president had presumably laid on the night before hung half out of his chamber window to air. I saw it so many times. HARRY HEMS. Perhaps the most practical illustration of this term is to be found in Bavaria. There the thick, puffy eiderdown quilt used in winter is kept from falling off the sleeper by means of two long sticks, called bett-scheeren (bed-shears), which are fixed with their respective ends on the sides of the wooden bedstead, and meet at an angle above the bedclothes. In Herefordshire the term "bedstaff" is applied to the movable panel which forms the side of the bed, and the object of which is also to keep the clothes from falling off. Cardiff. JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS. I was much interested in reading MR. PERCY SIMPSON's remarks at the first reference, and I entirely agree with him that "bedstaves" may have been used for more purposes than one. When Lady Rohesia (see 'Ingoldsby Legends') was supposed to be dying, and was roused into vigorous action by the faithlessness of her spouse, she used the "bedstaff" with much effect. One bedstaff we may assume was used for making or smoothing the bed; but when, as in the quotation from Alleyn's will, 1626, there are six bedstaves for each bed, they most probably must have been used for "tucking-in " purposes. How handy such staves would be for a variety of uses requires no comment. Ben Jonson, in The Staple of News,' Act V. so. i., refers to one use : But that she is cat-lived and squirrel-limb'd With throwing bed staves at her. F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY. FOUBERT'S RIDING ACADEMY (8th S. x. 109, 159). My thanks are due to G. F. R. B. for his valuable communication, which exactly hits my doubtful nail on the head. Sherwood Street was not on the site of Military Yard, but it was at no great distance from it. On referring to London Past and Present,' iii. 239, I find that Mr. Wheatley says that Sherwood Street runs from Brewer Street to Glasshouse Street. When originally built, it ran from Brewer Street to Shug Lane, which about a hundred years ago received the more euphonious designation of Tichborne Street, and has finally been absorbed in the Piccadilly Circus extensions. Glasshouse Street originally connected Brewer Street with Vigo Lane, but in the rage for change which has in latter times prevailed, it has grown to the extent of usurping the position of Marylebone Street, and thus, in a way, meets Sherwood Street. I notice that under Brewer Street (London Past and Present' i. 235), Mr. Wheatley refers to Major Foubert's residence in this locality. A good history of the Golden Square district is a desideratum. Since writing my former note I have felt doubtful whether Foubert moved his academy from Sherwood (or Sherrard) Street quite so early as is supposed. It is curious that the name of Foubert's Court or Passage is not to be found (so far as I can make out after careful examination) in Hatton's 'New View of London,' 1708, or in the Parish Clerks' New Remarks,' 1732, or in Maitland's History of London,' 1739. I find from 'The Wentworth Papers' that in the last-named year the major was still to the fore, though apparently not in very flourishing circumstances. Nearly sixty years had elapsed since he first arrived in London, and he must then have been a very old man, unless we are to conclude that another Major Foubert had stepped into his shoes. The little Lord Wentworth, writing to his father, the Earl of Strafford, on 3 Jan., 1738, says :— town to go to major Foubert's and inquire about the "Your lordship ordered me before you went out of price of learning to ride. I would have gone sooner, but they did not ride last week because it was Christmas Holidays; but I went this morning and told the major upon him to inquire about the price. He say'd the price that you was now in the country but order'd me to waite was six guineas enterence and three guineys a month, and that when he saw you he should never disagree with you about the price. There was about seven people riding, my Lord Holderness, my Lord Dalkieth, my Lord Deerhurst, Mr. Roper, Mr. Wallop, Mr. Whitworth, and Mr. Ashburnham, and I think he has fewer this year than last, and he seem'd very happy that you thought of it. I believe all his scollars was there to-day, and last year he had fifteen or sixteen."-Wentworth Papere,' p. 536. A year afterwards, on 2 Jan., 1739, he again writes: "According to your lordship's orders I begun to-day to ride, the major seemed very glad to see me, and I believe his joy was very sincere, for he has very few schoolars; all I saw was a Captain How, Mr. Corbet, Mr. Whitworth, and a Trooper that the Duke of Argylle recommended to Major Foubert."-Ibid., p. 540. In Horwood's map of London, 1792, the riding school is shown as a large building on the south side of "Major Foubert's Passage," by which name the thoroughfare seems to have been designated until, on the Regent Street improvements being made, it was closed to carriages, paved for foot-passengers, and received the title of "Foubert's Place." Kingsland, Shrewsbury. W. F. PRIDEAUX. |