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from mental affliction. At the conclusion of peace

between England and France in 1815 another large pie was baked, containing half a sheep, twenty fowls, and half a peck of flour. The 'Repeal Pie,' as it is locally called, was made on August 29, 1846, and was drawn through the village with thirty-one horses, headed by three bands of music. The pie was 7 feet in diameter, 1 foot 10 inches deep, and contained forty stones of flour. It was served in the presence of an estimated crowd of 60,000 people. On the occasion of the Jubilee of Queen Victoria another monster pie was provided on August 27, 1887. The pie was baked in a dish weighing 15 cwt. The pie was 8 feet in diameter and 2 feet deep. The total weight was over two tons, and the cost was put down at 250l. It was drawn by ten horses. The pie when cut into was gamey, and few could eat it. A smaller pie was made on September 3, 1887, and fully 2,000 persons dined off it. The coming pie will be 6 feet 6 inches in width, 10 feet 6 inches in length. Owing to the large crowds which assemble, arrangements are being made for mounted and other police. Barriers will be erected to prevent undue crushing, and prevent accidents which might easily occur.'

Norwich.

JAMES HOOPER.

"TWOULD A SAINT PROVOKE."-At Grinton in Swaledale, says Cooke's 'Guide to Richmond,' &c. (p. 82),

"the parish registers begin with the year 1640. In the north aisle lies Ann Barker. As is well known, all persons had in the olden time to be buried in wool, in

default of which a fine was levied on the next of kin. It is said that Ann Barker was the last person in England in respect of whose burial such a fine was charged, she having been buried in linen, contrary to the statute. The document levying the fine is dated 2 May, 1692." ST. SWITHIN.

[See Indexes to 'N. & Q.,' passim.] COLLINS'S PEERAGE.'-In a letter of 20 Dec., 1735, from the Hon. Edward Southwell to Dr. Marmaduke Coghill, Chancellor of the Exchequer, Ireland, which was formerly in the possession of Thos. Thorpe, the bookseller, of London, it is stated:

"Collins his great book [i. e. the 'Peerage of England,' first published, in 3 vols. 8vo., same year is only from a manuscript he bought, and these kind of claims [referring to his (Southwell's) claim to the lapsed barony of Cromwell] do not seem to be the works of his own study and profession."

Southwell was personally acquainted with Collins, and there seems no reason to doubt that the statement was well founded. It would therefore appear that the latter was not the real author of the 'Peerage' which goes by his name.

W. I. R. V. BRASS AT COWFOLD, SUSSEX.-The attention of archeologists should, I think, be drawn to the following paragraph in the Chichester Diocesan Gazette for May, in order that means may be taken, before it is too late, to prevent the removel from its proper place on the floor of so fine a specimen of a monumental brass. The motive may be good; but, covered as it is by mat

ting, there seems no sufficient reason why this wellpreserved brass should be removed from the position it has occupied for more than four and a half centuries :

"A suggestion was made at the Easter Vestry for the preservation of the splendid brass to Thomas Nelond, Prior of Lewes (ob. 1433), now to be seen in the floor of the nave, though covered by matting. It is getting very much worn, and Mr. Churchwarden Godman suggested that it might be removed and placed on one of the walls, and a cross put to mark the spot it had occupied. No action, however, was taken." E. H. W. D.

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"BECHATTED."-This word, with the sense of "bewitched," is said to be used in Lincolnshire and Devonshire. I should be glad to be informed whether the word is in use in any other part of Great Britain. THE EDITOR OF

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'THE ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.' The Clarendon Press, Oxford.

JOURNAL OF THE REV. JOHN BERRY, M.A.-I am anxious to ascertain whether the journal of the Rev. John Berry, M. A., mentioned in Calamy's History of the Nonconformists,' is still in existence, and in the possession of any of his descendants, of whom I am one. He was one of the ministers ejected on St. Bartholomew's Day, 24 Aug., 1662, formerly a fellow of Oriel College, Oxford, and then Rector of East Down, near Barnstaple. MARIA POOLE.

15, Nottingham Place, W.

THE "REIGN OF RECTORS.-Over the porch of the church of Mouzkildi (=sproutery in Basque), Basses Pyrénées, the following inscription shows the desire of an ecclesiastic to magnify his office: “Cet ovvrage a este fait av comancem' dv regne

dArnavd Lovis Darhex cvre lan 1709 Barneix Marc." Oan instances be adduced from any English documents or inscriptions since the Reformation under Henry VIII. of Anglican rectors of parishes described as "reigning" in their sphere of jurisdiction? PALAMEDES.

AUTHORS OF BOOKS WANTED.—
Will Whimsical's Miscellany. Chichester: printed
by J. Seagrave for Longman & Rees, London. 8vo.
Preface dated 1799.

The Squib; or, Searchfoot: an unedited little work which Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra wrote in defence of the first part of the Quijote. Published by Don Adolfo de Castro, at Cadiz, 1847. Translated from the Original Spanish by a Member of the University of Cambridge. Cambridge, J. Deighton; London, John W. Parker; Liverpool, Deighton & Laughton. 1849. 8vo.

A. B. W. THE SHIELD FOR WIVES.-On what authority rests the displaying of a married woman's coat on a crestless shield instead of a lozenge? Y.

Thamar, of Peterborough.

"We see from a Suffolk newspaper that the organ in St. Michael's Church, Framlingham, probably one of the oldest in the country, was reopened on Easter Sunday, after repairs. The instrument, it is said, was built as long ago as 1674, by Thamar, of Peterborough, and is the only known organ of his construction. We should like to know a little more about this Thamar. This organ was made for the chapel at Pembroke College, Cambridge, but about 1700 it was presented to Framlingham Church by the Master and Fellows of the College, who are the patrons of the living. The carved case is an interesting piece of work, and is well known to ecclesiologists."

The above paragraph is taken from the Northampton Mercury of 10 April. Any particulars concerning Thamar, of Peterborough, would be JOHN T. PAGE.

welcome.

5, Capel Terrace, Southend-on-Sea.

not assassinated by one of his own side?__The murderer's wife and child were killed in Holland by the house falling down, and brought to Scotland for burial. About a hundred years later she was dug up, and exposed to the curious. A. C. H.

JACOBITE SONG.-Who wrote the words and the beautiful music of the following? Can any one supply the other verses?

Once in fair England my Blackbird did flourish,
He was the chief flower that in it did spring;
Prime ladies of honour his person did nourish,
Because that he was the true son of a King.

But this false fortune

Which still is uncertain
Has caused this long parting between him and me;
His name 1'll advance

In Spain and in France,

And seek out my Blackbird, wherever he be.

AN LON DUBH.

AARON MILLER, CLOCKMAKER.-Will some one kindly give me the date of an old clock made by Aaron Miller? The house in which it stands was built about 1695. The clock is supposed to be as old as the house. MORICHES.

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ROBIN HOOD.-Can any reader of 'N. & Q.' furnish me with a list of the springs or runnels of water named after Robin Hood, and give me information concerning their whereabouts? should also be glad to learn whether such springs are supposed to be connected with the ancient May games, or whether they are imagined to owe their relationship with Robin to once existing myths now lost. If the "gentle thief" was formerly a supernatural ruler of the greenwood, it is not only possible, but likely that he also had control of water and sunlight, for a power directing vegetative energy would be almost helpless without such authority. E. N. F. C.

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THE REEL OF TULLOCH.'-What is the origin of 'The Reel of Tulloch'; and are there any words to the tune? There are to some reels, such as Tullochgorum,' of which the origin and meaning I believe seems not to be known for certain. Tullochgorum' was first printed_in_Craig's colHY. B. TULLOCH. lection of 1730.

Glencairn, Torquay.

IRISH HISTORICAL MANUSCRIPTS IN TRINITY COLLEGE, DUBLIN.-Much of Harris's 'Life of William III.' is based upon a collection of official correspondence which was in his possession when he wrote, and which is now in the library of Trinity College, Dublin. I do not know the title under which this collection is indexed, and hitherto all efforts of mine to trace it in the catalogue or through the assistance of the courteous officials of the library have been unavailing. I shall be greatly obliged to any person who will tell me under what reference the volumes are to be found.ment was it? Portions of their contents have been published at various times, and some of the letters, notably those of Sarsfield, were reproduced in facsimile in "The National Manuscripts of Ireland.'

J. DE COURCY MACDONNELL.

Fairy Hill, Limerick. Dundee at KILLI EKRANKIE.-Was he not shot by a man who married his widow ?—i. e., was he

"BOBTAIL." In the Masque of Flowers,' 1614, the word "bobtail" occurs as the name of a musical instrument. What kind of an instruH. A. EVANS,

16, Manchester Road, Chorlton-cum-Hardy.

"LOUNDER."-Can any philological reader of 'N. & Q.' suggest a derivation for this word? It is not uncommon in Scottish speech to-day, and means "6 to beat severely," "to thrash." The dictionaries, so far as I can find, do not settle the origin. The Century' gives no explanation, whilst the Imperial' traces the word to Icel.

Llaun, the buttock. The primary meaning_might authentic, just as certain parts in the current report suit this explanation; but in Scotch, as I have of Sheridan's great speech in Westminster Hall been accustomed to hear it, a "loundering" might were his own, while in both cases the reporter or as readily be associated with punishable parts of the repeater is responsible for the fiction. Sheridan the person indiscriminately, as the shoulders or the did use these words, with reference to Burke, on hands; the expression, indeed, seems to refer more 4 March, 1793 :to the nature than the direction of the blows. The use of a strap or thong, or other weapon, however, is always implied. Perhaps some of your readers could throw light on the subject. W. B.

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THORNFIELD desires a reference to these words, said to have been spoken by Sheridan: "Referring to a political opponent, a needy place-hunter, known to have been a pupil [of a baker or of one who lived at a baker's shop], said, 'the right honourable gentleman went to the baker for his eloquence and to the House of Commons for his bread."" If Sheridan ever uttered these words, the right honourable gentleman must have been Burke, who, in his earlier years, in common with many others who afterwards made their mark, was a member of the Robin Hood Society, which met in Essex Street and was called by Horace Walpole "the Oratorical Club." The chairman of the society was a speaker of remarkable ability, and he summed up the debate. I do not see any point in the remark that "the right honourable gentleman went to the baker for his eloquence," or the additional one that he had also gone "to the House of Commons for his bread." But did Sheridan ever utter the words? There is no trace of them in 'The Parliamentary History,' or in the collected edition of his speeches. They are to be found, it is true, in 'Sheridaniana,' among other things which, as I have written in my Biography of Sheridan,' he never did nor uttered. They have been reproduced in 'Bon Mots,' edited by W. Jerrold, but I am not one of those who maintain that a mis-statement gains credibility by repetition. A few words in the passage are

"Mr. Sheridan then expressed his surprise at the manner in which Mr. Burke had talked of the conduct of parties, who had long since stated that he was unconnected with any party, who had gone from the living Whigs to the dead, and whom, having quitted the camp as a deserter, he never suspected of returning to it as a spy."-Speeches,' vol. ii. p. 178.

This is the record of what Sheridan said. I fear that THORNFIELD will never be supplied with an authority for the added words in 'Sheridaniana.' W. FRASER RAE.

The Reform Club.

THORNFIELD is not quite correct as regards the facts put forward in his query, if my authority speaks truthfully. In 'Sheridaniana; or, Anecdotes of the Life of Richard Brinsley Sheridan, his Table Talk and Bon Mots,' London, Henry Colburn, New Burlington Street, 1826, p. 278, the following is given as the anecdote referred to:

"It is, of course, known that Mr. Burke, in the early part of his life, enlisted under the banners of Opposition, and was a constant frequenter of the house of a baker of the name of Tarcome, where the aspirants for fame, on that side of the question, used to meet, and debate certain proposed questions; the baker himself was eventually constituted perpetual president of the wellknown Robin Hood Society; such was the estimation in which he was held by the disciples of Whiggery. Upon a memorable occasion, Mr. Burke, in the House of Commons, exclaimed, I quit the camp,' and suddenly crossed the House, and having seated himself on the brilliant speech in opposition to his ci-devant friends Ministerial Benches, shortly after rose, and made a most and adherents. Sheridan was a good deal nettled at what he considered a needless defection, and replied with something like asperity to Mr. Burke's attack, and concluded his speech with nearly these words: 'The has "quitted the camp," he will recollect that he quitted honourable gentleman, to quote his own expression, it as a deserter, and I sincerely hope he will never attempt to return as a spy; but I, for one, cannot sympathise in the astonishment with which an act of apostacy the honourable gentleman have forgotten whence he so flagrant has electrified the house; for neither I nor obtained the weapons which he now uses against us; so far from being at all astonished at the honourable gentleman's tergiversation, I consider it not only characteristic but consistent, that he who in the outset of life made so extraordinary a blunder as to go to a baker's for eloHouse of Commons to get bread.'" quence, should finish such a career by coming to the

J. FINLAY SWEETING.

SAMUEL PEPYS (8th S. ix. 307, 489; x. 33).The nature of MR. DAVEY'S corrections might, in the case of a less-known name, suggest an incomplete acquaintance with D'Avenant's works. Certainly they are not corrective in any single sense. I

gave in my notes a list of the composers who

wrote the music to the first part of The Siege of Rhodes.' MR. DAVEY repeats my list, and adds the arrangement of the acts; in other words, merely confirms my statement, leaving the matter exactly where it was.

The two parts of the 'Siege' are widely enough separated—in matter, and above all in style-to warrant our regarding them as different plays; indeed, it is difficult to see how they could have been combined effectively. Combined, however, they were, forming the third and last stage of the opera. When MR. DAVEY speaks of the complete score of the 'Siege' being in existence, one would suppose that the combined work is referred to. In this case it would not be difficult to discover the original setting of the words "Beauty, retire!" to which Pepys had apparently added some music himself. But, after mentioning "complete copies" of the work, MR. DAVEY adds a list of composers who collaborated in the music of the first part only; and in this not only the words referred to, but the character to whom they are addressed, do

not even exist!

The first part (1656), in five acts, concludes with the ridiculous "coffee" chorus; the second (1661), also in five acts, reflects more credit on D'Avenant, is well knit, and superior from a dramatic point of view to the first, though less full of musical concessions; the third (1661-2) appears to have been merely a combination of the first and second. If MR. DAVEY is acquainted with the music to the second part, he certainly does not mention the fact. Nor do different opinions of Lawes, Cooke, and Locke help the matter very much. Hawkins dubs Cooke "but a dry composer "; and "dry" is a mild term for the few songs of his which appear in Playford's collections.

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Burney certainly has the misfortune to be "more than one hundred years old"; but how MR. DAVEY arrives at the conclusion that I have founded my remarks on the sands of his History' I cannot imagine. I made but one allusion to Burney, merely to show that doubts have existed as to the thoroughly operatic" nature of the work as advertised by D'Avenant in his prefaces. In the absence of any approved contradiction or alternative theory by MR. DAVEY, I may repeat my suggestion that Cooke, rather than Lawes or Locke, was responsible for the greater part of the music in the later productions of The Siege of Rhodes.' GEORGE MARSHALL.

Sefton Park, Liverpool.

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COINCIDENCES (8th S. viii. 124, 177, 270, 334). -The following occurs in the Illustrated Carpenter and Builder for 13 Dec., 1895:

"Many of the occurrences in actual life are stranger than the most unlikely dreams of novelists. The truth of the following curious incident is guaranteed. In September, 1892, the daughter of the blacksmith in Canna, in the far Hebrides, was wandering on the shore,

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gathering driftwood for fuel, when in a small bay, about 100 yards distant from her father's house, she picked up Lachlan Campbell, Bilbao, March 23, 1892. On taking a piece of wood bearing the inscription, cut with a knife, it to her mother she became much concerned, as this was the name of her own son, who was a boiler-maker in Spain, and, as would be the case with most peoplecertainly with Highlanders-she could not get over the superstitious dread that this message from the sea was the harbinger of evil tidings regarding her son. Her friends did their best to calm her terror, exhorting her to wait for an explanation. When writing to her son she told him of what had happened, and was greatly being, but was astonished to learn that he perfectly relieved on receiving a reply assuring her of his wellremembered how, when on a holiday, he had cut, as described, on a piece of wood, and had idly thrown it into the sea from a rock near Bilbao. We all know the power of ocean currents, and need not be surprised at this piece of wood having been carried for six months; but the marvellous-and, except for undoubted evidence, the incredible-circumstance in this case is, that this piece of wood, after its long wandering, should have been washed on the shore within 100 yards of where the writer's mother lived, and that it should be picked up by one of his own family and taken home.”

I remember, a few years ago, when in the Arctic Regions, seeing a buoy, that had got loose and drifted from the Goodwins, beached high and dry of the ways of ocean currents is as nothing to the

on shore near Tromso. But that erratic instance

above.

Fair Park, Exeter.

HARRY HEMS.

FLAT-IRONS (8th S. viii. 428, 510; ix. 96, 174). The following, from the Diary' of John Evelyn, under date 8 Oct., 1672, is perhaps earlier than any note made by previous correspondents :

"Richardson, the famous Fire-eater......also tooke up a thick piece of yron, such as laundresses use to put in their smoothing boxes, when it was fiery hot, held it between his teeth," &c. GILBERT H. F. VANE.

The Rectory, Wem, Salop.

of George Wilson, the Pedestrian,' 1815, the PERAMBULATOR (8th S. viii. 345).—In the 'Life following notice of the measuring wheel occurs :posed to give me, for my assistance, a Mechanical Wheel, "He [i. e., Carey, the mapseller in the Strand] procalled an Ambulator, to aid me in more accurately ascertaining my measurements of the roads I was to travel."-P. 20.

Wilson did not avail himself of the proffered aid, but measured the distances by walking, which throws considerable doubt as to the accuracy of Cary's maps of that period. AYEAHR.

TANNACHIE (8th S. x. 7, 60).—I do not think CANON TAYLOR has got hold of the right clue to this name, which is probably professional or official, and not locative. Compare another Scottish surname, Mactaggart, i. e., mac-an-t-shagairt, the priest's son. Here the s of sagart has been silenced by aspiration, and a t inserted for euphony. Many other instances of these changes in the oblique

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case in Gaelic might be quoted; e. g., Mactier people to abbreviate the word when writing it, mac-t-shiair, Macintyre mac-an-t-shiair, both and every one seems to spell it as he wills. A meaning the son of the carpenter. Tannachie, common abbreviation of it is "M"," this, though originally Mactannachie, would, in like manner, I doubt if it would be considered elegant, or even represent mac-t-sheannachaidh, the son of the intelligible, by Celtic scholars, is familiarized to us sennachy, bard or seer. The prefix Mac is often in many names; but I think there are few dropped in colloquial use of patronymics. Englishmen who could at once correctly pronounce the name M'Beth, or who would recognize it as an old familiar friend, yet at least one family I know of spells its name this way. I was myself grievously disappointed several years ago to find that the works of a certain "T. B. M'Aulay," which I saw advertised for sale in an auctioneer's catalogue, were neither the rarities nor the novelties I had taken them for. Perhaps it may interest your correspondent to learn that here, on the borders of the ancient Thomond, the MacNamaras, a great and powerful Clare clan, are seemingly considered the Macs par excellence, and that members of that in ordinary conversation, always referred ," "Bob Mac," &c., it being to as Denny Mac," understood that when Mac alone is used Mac

"ST. SEPULCHRE" (8th S. x. 26).-MR. BRAND'S horror at finding St. Sepulchre, Snow Hill, London, so designated upon the notice-board of the church was uncalled for. That Stow and Maitland speak of the church as St. Sepulchre should have caused him to reflect before writing to N. & Q. MR. BRAND had for the moment forgotten that saint is from sanctus, and means holy, whether place or person is intended. The prefix St. is now generally reserved for persons, but, as the present case proves, not necessarily so. Other examples of saint being used in the sense of holy are not uncommon in the dedication of churches, as for instance St. Saviour and St. Gabriel. Neither our Lord nor the archangel are to be numbered amongst the saints in the restricted sense that Mr. Brand would attach to the word. F. A. Russell. But what is the difference between Saint Sepulchre and Holy Sepulchre? There is really no occasion to object to the expression if it is understood that the term saint is the equivalent of the term holy, and that it may be, and is, quite as properly used with regard to places and things -such as doctrines, events, and books-as it is to persons. Incidentally, it is incorrect to speak of the church in question as "dedicated to the memory of" the Holy Sepulchre. Churches are, as a matter of fact, dedicated to God, and named in honour of distinguished Christian persons, places, doctrines, and events. F. P.

Wedding CeremoNY (8th S. ix. 406, 475; x. 59). Is not J. T. F. mistaken when he says that the priest, when he knotted the stole round the hands of the contracting parties at the wedding described by MR. ENGLAND HOWLETT, was but doing what is a modern invention? Surely in Vander Weyden's great picture of 'The Seven Sacraments,' at Antwerp, in that part of it which represents the sacrament of matrimony the priest is represented M. W. as so doing.

"MAC" AND "Mc" (8th S. ix. 508).-Although, like MR. PLATT's friend, I am a native of Limerick, I cannot corroborate his statement with reference to the spelling of the prefix Mac. In my experience the word is invariably pronounced as spelt; nor have I known the word Mahon to be pronounced otherwise than with the accent on the first syllable. The difference in the spelling of the prefix Mac simply arises from a desire of some

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REV. J. ARROWSMITH (8th S. viii. 327).—The Rev. John Arrowsmith, instituted to the rectory of Wilcote or Wilcott, co. Oxford, 11 February, 1733/4 (Bishops' Certificates of Institutions to Benefices, dio. Oxford, P.R.O.), was resident at Charlbury in 1754, in which year he voted at Oxford as a freeholder, in respect of a freehold at Wilcote aforesaid (p. 54, "Poll of the Freeholders of Oxfordshire, taken 17th of April, 1754," 8vo. Oxford, 1754). DANIEL HIPWELL.

CORONATION SERVICE (8th S. ix. 446, 492).— The late Basil Montague Pickering, in 1875, published "The Coronation Service according to the Church of England, edited by John Fuller Russell," price one shilling. I believe copies may yet be had of Messrs. Pickering & Chatto, 66, Haymarket. This pamphlet seems to me to give in the text and the notes all the information that R. R. can be desired.

Boston, Lincolnshire.

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