holly-boy was discovered blazing in the maidens' than the climber in the shade to typify their love bonfire the ivy-girl was carried off in triumph and in adversity and their fidelity unto the absent ones burnt likewise with much shouting and glee. they were mourning as the dead ? Sorrow reigned ; In this curious practice we cannot fail to per no bird but the owlet was heard, no laughter but ceive a marked personification of these bardy the laughter from the cold, when holly and his evergreens—a personification we again meet with merrymen appeared within the hall, and joy and in an old ballad of the days of Henry VI. pre- mirth took the place of weeping and despair :served in the British Museum. Here the bolly Nay, Ivy, nay; it shall not be i-wys; and ivy are placed in opposition : Let Holly hare the maystery, as the manner is. Old Ballad of the Days of Henry VI. The story of that return was sure to be repeated Nay. Ivy, nay; it shall not bo i-wy8; when those parted ones gathered around the king's Let Holly hafe the maystery, as the manner is. fire. Even if this occurrence did not originate the Holly stond in the Halle fayre to behold; Ivy stond without the dore ; she is full sore acold, custom, it must have imparted an added zest to the old feast of Thor, and made the family reunion Holly and his merry men they dancyn and they sing. the one indestructible characteristic of the Yule Ivy and hur maidens they wepyn and they wrong. Nay, Ivy, nay, &c. by the sheltered hearth. This was the festival whicb the father of Rowena introduced into Britain. Ivy hath a lybe, she laughit with the cold; A similar antithesis is found in the garland gay So mot they all hafe that wyth Ivy hold, Nay, Ivy, nay, &c. which crowned the head of the boar—the most Holly hat berries as red as any rose; conspicuous dish at the Saxon Yule feast—and the They foster the hunter, and kepe him from the doo. rosemary, another funereal herb, which was placed Nay, Ivy, nay, &c. in its mouth. After Rowena's day the preparaIvy bath berries as black as any slo; tion of the wassail-bowl evidently belonged to the Ther com the oule and ete hym as she goo. maidens, who wreathed it with ivy and carried it Nay, Ivy, nay, &c. round with appropriate songs. E. STREDDER. Holly hath byrdys a full fayre flock, 21, Stowe Road, Shepherd's Bush, W. The nightyogale, the poppyngy, the gayntal lavorok. (To be continued.) JEREMY TAYLOR.-On 14 Jan., 1635/6, Jeremy Nay, Ivy, nay, &c. Taylor was admitted to a fellowship at All Souls' This weeping ivy with her maidens can have no College, Oxford, and his biographer, the Rev. reference to the infant Christ or the Bacchus Henry Kaye Bonney, observes, that "at this time weed, as the ivy wbich wreathed the wine-cup at the Papists circulated a report that he was strongly the Norman festivals was often called, or the inclined to enter into communion with the Church ivy wreath frequently hung up outside the door of Rome.”. Mr. Bonney believed, however, that as a vintner's sign. The allusion to the owlet's cry, the authority upon which this rests must be coneven now regarded as a warning of the approach sidored very doubtful, and that the best answer to of death, shows plainly that the ivy of the Yule the report was an appeal to Taylor's works," which wreath was identical with the ivy of the funeral contain nothing that savours of Romish errors ; garland. The holly and ivy thus contrasted may but, on the contrary, abound with arguments represent the twofold pbase of the festival- against them.” He also quotes from the first the gloom of the “mother night" and the joy of "Letter to one tempted to the Communion of the the new-born year. Church of Rome,' a passage already printed in Still, if this were all, it is hard to see why the N. & Q.' (465 S. vi. 391), to the effect that the funeral emblems are given to the female, while allegation was “perfectly a slander.” the brightness and merriment ascribed to the holly The Rev. Robert Aris Willmott, in his work on are always male, and stranger still why the Bishop Jeremy Taylor' (1847), speaks (p. 99) of ' weeping ivy is placed without the door and the the “improbable story of his intended secession dancing holly within, a position which the to the Roman Church," and adds that " we must youngest Viking, the beardless boy, would have close our ears to the universal teaching of his works, scouted and contemned. But if we accept the holly before we can believe that he had over turned å and ivy as the memorials of the return of the favourable eye upon the papal superstition." exiled Goths from the borders of the Euxine, they Anthony à Wood appears to be the first writer full of meaning : who referred to the rumour. His words are:Ivy stands without the door and is full sore acold. “ About the same time that he was admitted a fellow What attitude could more vividly describe the of All Souls') he was in a ready way to be confirmed a desolation of those Saxon women, hopelessly watch member of the church of Rome, as many of that per Buasion have said, but upon a sermon delivered in s. ing through that weary “mother night" of sepa- Mary's Church in Oxon, on the 5 of November (Gunration and suspense ; or what more fitting emblem 1 powder-treason day), an. 1638, wherein several things 6 were put in against the papists by the then vice-chan. Wood was first introduced to Franciscus à THOMPSON COOPER, F.S.A. THE SEA-SERPENT. — It is interesting to find Franciscas à_Sancta Clara above referred to quity. Some myth relating to it appears to have that the sea-serpent was known in remote antiwas a learned Franciscan friar, whose real name existed among the Accads, who, blending, with was Ohristopher Davenport, and who sometimes later arriving races, helped to form the population passed under the name of Hunt. He was born at of ancient Obaldea. Speaking of the worship of Coventry in 1598, and died at Somerset House, serpent gods, Lenormant says in ‘La Magie chez in the Strand, on 31 May, 1680. For some years les Chaldéens,' 1874, p. 207:he lived in concealment at Oxford, or in the neigh “The Accads made of the serpent one of the principal bourhood, being on terms of friendship with Dr. attributes, and one of the figures of Ea (lord of the Barlow, the Bodleian librarian. terraqueous surface of the earth, and of the atmosphere), Heber, in his 'Life of Jeremy Taylor' (p. xvi), and we have a very important allusion to a mythological expresses the opinion that serpent in these words of a ditbyramb in the Accadian tongue placed in the mouth of a god, perhaps Ea...... when Davenport, 28 Wood ageures us, ascribed to • Like to the enormous serpent with seven heade, the Taylor a regularly formed resolution of being reconciled weapon with seven heads, I hold it. Like to the serpent to the church of Romo......it is most reasonable, as well which lashes the waves of the sea [attacking) the enemy as most charitable, to impute the assertion to a failure in face-devastatrix in the shock of battles, extending of memory, not unnatural to one so far advanced in its power over the heaven and the earth, the weapon years as he must have been when Wood conversed with with (seven] beads (I hold it].'” him." The words given in brackets are emendations Wood's assertion is, however, confirmed in a filling spaces where the text is mutilated in the remarkable manner by a passage occurring in a original. G. W. very rare work, wbich is not to be found, I believe, in the Library of the British Museum. This is MOTTOES FOR SUNDIALS.-Some of the readers entitled, “The Literary Life of the Rev. John of 'N. & Q.' may like to know that there are upSorjeant, written by himself at Paris, 1700, at the wards of three hundred of these in Charles Leadrequest of the Duke of Perth"; and it was pub- better's Mechanick Dialling ; or, the New Art lished at London in 1816, 8vo., under the editor of Shadows,' 8vo., 1773, pp. 101-116. It would ship of the Rev. John Kirk, D.D. Serjeant, or be well if they were reprinted in ‘N. & Q.' or elsemore properly Sergeant, who was a distinguished where, as I think the book containing them is controversial writer on the Catholic side, after rare. I do not call to mind ever having seen a referring to his reply to Bishop Taylor's 'Dissuasive copy except that in the library of the Society of from Popery,' makes the following positive state- Antiquaries. EDWARD PEACOCK. ment: (See Indexes to 'N. & Q.,' passim.] FOLK - LORE RELATING TO MARRIAGE AND when Dr. Taylor was a Master of Arts in Oxford, he BAPTISM.- A short time since I was at a wedding had converted him to the Catholic faith, and was about in Lincolnshire. On the important morning the to reconcile him; but it happened, that there running whisper in the university that he was inclined to bridegroom had an interview with his mother-inPopery, the Vice-chancellor, to givo him occasion to law to be in the garden of her house, it not being clear himself, put him upon preaching the 5th of Novem. considered right that he should come indoors until ber sermon, which he did, and (as is the fashion) did after the marriage ceremony. I believe he had in it tell twenty lies of the faith and faults of Catholics. dined with the bride and her family the night Fear of the world, and of losing his repute in the uni. before. A working man in Yorkshire was advised to bim; yet he still preserved bis former intentions. But call his child Giles or Michael, because of the dates Mr. Hunt would not yield to reconcile or absolve him, of its birth and baptism; but he declined, saying till be bad first by some public writing made satisfaction “ the saints would want it” if he made it their for the lies he had preached and printed (as his sermon was by order of the Vice-cbancellor) against God's damesake. This idea is probably of Protestant church, and had retracted the falsehoods he had growth, as in earlier times it was quite general to preached; which be, valuing the praise of mon more name a child after the saint who presided over its than the glory of God, would not do, and so lost his half- birthday. Sr. SWITHIN. vocation, and continued as he wap. In Cromwell's days be had published his ' Liberty of Prophecying,' in which he was very civil to Catholics. But now the Church vii. 287, 414; Sib S. vi. 448; vii. 156). As this MATTHEW ARNOLD'S CROMWELL.' (See 7th S. of Eogland scrambling up again at King Charles his restoration, and be having got a bishopric, he was poem, I believe, is very scarce-I fancy it is not becomo our greatest enemy.' even in the London Library, but I am not sure 6 6 I think it may interest your readers, or some of But in the early days of the Tractarian movement them, to make some acquaintance with it. I the adoption of this costume was a sure sign that accordingly send what is perhaps the finest passage, the wearer sympathized with that section of the or, at all events, one of the finest passages in it, High Church party then known as Puseyites. hoping that ‘N. & Q.' will find room for it. I and after Cardinal Newman went over to the owo my own acquaintance with the poem to a Church of Rome, these garments were stigmatized correspondent of 'N. & Q.,' unknown to me per- with the epithet of M.B., which briefly meant sonally, who has, very kindly and courteously, lent “ Mark of the Beast." me a volume of Oxford Prize Poems,'containing “Tbird, I really fear whether a profane person like also Dean Stanley's interesting poem 'The Gipsies.' me, a carval west-country alderman, in a white hat and Then his eye slumbered, and the chain was broke brown holland trousers, would not be somewhat out of That bound bis spirit, and his heart awoke; character among the cloud of M.B. coats, which I conThen-like a kingly river-swift and strong, ceive a meeting of the E.C.C.C.S. (as Hope writes it) to The future rolled its gathering tides along ! present.”—Lile and Letters of E. A. Freeman, D.C.L., The shout of onset and the shriek of fear LL.D.,' by W. R. W. Stephens, B.D., vol. i. p. 46, letter Smote, like the rush of waters, on bis ear; from E. A. F. to the Rev. B. Webb, dated 22 April, 1854. And bis eye kindled with the kindling fray, “Betsy had arranged this object'in a pink bed-gown The surging battle and the mailed array ! of ber own, a pair of the minister's trousers turned up All wondrous deeds the coming days should see, nearly to the knee in roll the thickness of a man's And the long Vision of the years to be. wrist, and one of tbe minister's now-fangled M.B. waistPale phantom hosts, like sbadowe, faint and far, coats, tbrough tbe armholes of wbich two very long Councils, and armies, and the pomp of war! arms escaped, clad as far as the elbows in the sleeves of And one swayed all, who wore a kingly crown, the pink bed-gown."-See “The Colleging of Simeon Until another role and emote bim down. Gleg!' in Mr. 8. R. Crockett's “Bog Myrtle and Peat,' A form that towered above his brother men; p. 268, London, 1895. A form he knew-but it was shrouded then ! It is, perhaps, worth while noticing that in 1895 With stern slow steps-unseen-yet still the same, & minister of the Scotch Kirk is represented as By leaguered tower and tented field it came; wearing as a matter of course a garment which By Naseby's bill, o'er Marston's heathy waste, By Worcester's field, the warrior-vision passed ! in 1845 was considered to be the badge of the From their deep base thy beetling cliffs, Dunbar, extreme Romanizing party of the Church of EngRang, as be trode them, with the voice of war! land. C. W. PENNY. The soldier kindled at his words of fire; Wokingham. The statesman quailed before bis glance of iro! Worn was his brow with cares no thougbt could scan; ORAL TRADITION.—The following clipping from His step was loftier than the steps of man ; the Scotsman of Tuesday, 19 November, seems And the winds told his glory-and the wave Sonorous witness to his empire gave ! LI. 131-58. worthy of preservation in ‘N. & Q.':With the last couplet may be compared the lines father of the Church of Scotland, attained his ninety “The Rev. Dr. Smith, of Cathcart, Glasgow, the in Mr. Swinburne's fine poem 'Cromwell's Statue,' second birthday yesterday. The reverend gentleman, in the Nineteenth Century magazine for July, 1895: who continues io enjoy good health, bas been minister of His band won back the sea for England's dower. tbe parish of Cathcart for sixty-seven years, and cele brated bis pastoral jubilee in 1878. He retains a wonder. His praise is in the sea's and Milton's song. ful memory, and has a recollection of conversing with a soldier who carried arms at Culloden." This being so, may we not apply to Cromwell Thus the account of an event which happened a Victor Hugo's lines in praise of Welf, Castellan hundred and fifty years since, may to-day be had d'Osbor'? only at second hand. R. M. SPENCE, M.A. Si la mer prononçait des noms dans ses marées, Mange of Arbutbnott, N.B. O vieillard, ce serait des noms comme le tien. JONATHAN BOUCHIER. HAPPY TEXT. — At the conference of the M.B. COATS AND WAISTCOATS.—During the Institute of Journalists, held at Exeter in Septemlast few days I have come upon the following two ber last, the Rev. Canon Edmonds, B.D., preached a sermon in the cathedral from the words : And passages which seem worthy of preservation in N. & Q. There are probably many readers of He charged them that they should tell no man ; the younger generation to whom the letters M.B., but the more He charged them, so much the more when applied to coats and waistcoats, must present this surely deserves a record among felicitous texts. a great deal they published it” (St. Mark, vii. 36). an impenetrable mystery. It may be as well, then, to say that they were originally used to It must be added that the sermon was worthy of it. B. W. S. describe a long clerical coat which came down nearly to the heels of the wearer, and a waistcoat A New CRYPTOGRAM.–At this time of year which hid bis shirt entirely from view, after the now puzzles are sometimes in vogue. manner of a cassock. The waistcoat is now almost Most cryptograms are really very easy to solve. universally worn by the clergy, and the coat, with Their usual defect is that the same symbol always a considerable shortening of its tail, still survives. means the same thing. I offer for solution the following, which did not take five minutes to not only Oliver Cromwell beld a council of war, construct: but the memorable address, by the Recorder of Hpxhv titrygi vki fpi drd gkoxhz clv. Drogheda, was delivered to King James II. in I have divided it into words to make it easier ; April, 1689), I should be obliged by information and I give a further clue in the statement that it respecting the name, &c., of the family of the wife represents a line from Shakespeare's Macbeth." of Peter Taafe, of Smermore Castle, co. Louth, Unless it is discovered I will send the key by grandfather the said atherine Hope, and unclo means of which it can be easily read; and I make of John, first Viscount Taafe, grandfather of the the note that the same symbol has here several celebrated Field-Marshal Taafe of the Austrian meanings. WALTER W. SKEAT. Empire ? FRANCES TOLER HOPE. Clapham, RICHARD COSWAY, R. A., the miniature painter, died on 4 July, 1821, at a house in the Edgware We must request correspondents desiring information Road which he had recently taken (Boaden's on family matters of only private interest to a flix their "Memoir of Mrs. Inchbald,' ii. 272). His remains names and addresses to their queries, in order that the answers may be addressed to thom direct. were interred in the new church of St. Marylebone, but no memorial appears to have been erected to SPIDER FOLK.LORE.--I shall be very grateful bis memory-at least pone is recorded in Smith's for direction to any analogues in the folklore of history of that parish. I should be grateful if any other countries to the well-known myth of Robert correspondent of ‘N. & Q.' could point out the house in which he died. W. F. PRIDEAUX, Bruce and the spider. The kindred stories of Kingsland, Shrewsbury. Bibles. 1545. S. Sabon. 4to. Lyon, 1546. Thielman Kerver. Fol. Paris, which Scotsmen, especially those who claim de 1550. A. Benoit. 8vo. Lyon. scent from Robert I., regard spiders. But similar 1554. François Perrin. Fol. honours to spiders are reported from many other 1554, A. Benoit. Lyon, countries, and from parts of the United Kingdom 1556. T, Crespin. 4to. Genève. as remote from Scotland as Norfolk, Yorkshire, 1559. M. du Boys. 4to. Genève. Cornwall, and Ireland. The Cornish' myth refers 1560. Sebastien Honorati. Fol. Lyon. Franc-Latin. 1562. Bourgeois, Barbier, Courteau. Genève. 1565. Anastese. Fol. 1566, Julien de Monchel. 8vo. Genève. regard for spiders by stories connected with some 1569. S. Honorati. Fol. Lyon. 1582. T. Crovel8vo. Rouen, New Testaments. 1533. No printer's name. 12mo, Lyon, 1563, T. de Liesueldt. Svo. Anvers. 1566. M. Guillard. 12mo. Paris. 1567. T. Prellon. 1585. Mallard. 1200. Rouen. O. MASON. which there seems no good reason to accept. 29, Emperor's Gate, S.W. BERBERT MAXWELL. DICTIONNAIRE DES GIROUETTES.'--Can any of TAAFE.—Will you kindly allow me to state in your readers give me information respecting the 'N. & Q., that, as the great-granddaughter of above-mentioned work? The copy which I possess Catherine Dromgoole (by marriage Hope), of the is of the third edition, and is “ornée d'une gravure Drogheda family of that name (in the drawing- allégorique.” The date is 1815. I cannot find room of whose house in Peter Street, by the way, any reference to it in Brunet, although it may be 0&I Ive. tay8 the are 6 there catalogued under the name of the chief editor “Nonum prematur in annum”? It is, of course, or compiler, whoever he may have been. It a quotation from the 'Ars Poetica.' describes itself as the work of “Une Société de PERCEVAL LANDON. Girouettes," which I take to be a mere paper- 1, Cloisters, Temple. name, like the Kama Shastra Society of Benares. The Dictionnaire' is a very remarkable one, in HALL.-I am told that a family named Hall which nos contemporains peints d'après took surname Knight. I wish to ascertain date of eux-mêmes." W. ROBERTS. this ; and any information bearing upon change of 86, Grosvenor Road, S.W. name will much oblige. W. T. KNIGHT. Clevedon, Somerset. [Three editions of this work appeared in 1815. It was at first attributed to A. J. Q. Beuchot, who, in “La SAMADEN.–Some years ago, passing through Bibliographie de la France,' 1815, p. 445, expressly disavowed the paternity. It is , in fact, by Álexis Eymery, Samaden, in going either to or from Pontresina, in its publisher, who was supplied with notes and assistance the Engadine, I noticed this inscription, carved, I from P. J. Charrin, Tastu, René Périn, and the Count think, in the stone of a building (probably a public César de Proisy d'Eppe, who incurred some suspicion of one), “ Ille terrarum mihi praeter omnes Angulus the authorship. It was answered in 1815 by Le Censeur ridet." It was on a bright, fresh day, and the du Dictionnaire des Girouettes; ou, les Honnêtes Gens vengés,' par M. C[harles] D[oris), and it gave rise to quotation from old Horace ('Carm.,'ii. 6, vv. 13, 14) L’Almanach des Girouettes, Paris, 1815; "Le Petit seemed specially felicitous. Can any traveller say Dictionnaire des Girouettes,"' 1826; "Nouveau Diction if the inscription remains, and on what building Daire des Girouettes,' 1831, and ‘Petit Dictionnaire de it is ? R. R. DEES. nos grandes Girouettes,' 1842.] Wallsend. SYMONDS'S WORKS ON THE RENAISSANCE.-I REPORTS OF CROMWELL'S COMMANDERS. — Could have just acquired Addington Symonds's two volumes of the Catholic Reaction, and would be you suggest to me a way by which I could obtain a copy any reports issued by Cromwell's comglad to know, if bis other works treating on the manders, say in 1653 ? One of his officers in that Renaissance be procured, in what order they should year destroyed the old Castle of Stornoway. be read. A. W. J. N. ANDERDEN. SARGEAUNT FAMILY.-Would any of the readers OUR LADY OF HATE.-Can it be true that a of ‘N. & Q.’ kindly tell me if there is a pedigree church exists dedicated to Our Lady of Hate ? It of the family of Sargeaunt, and where it is likely would seem 80 from the following quotation at to be found? I think this family springs from the p. 181 of Elton's "Origins of English History,' ancient French family of this name, a member of 1882:which, I fancy, married into the English branch “Une chapelle dédiée à Notre-Dame de la Haine of the De Levis family, originally of France. existe toujours prés de Tréguier, et le peuple n'a pas DE MORO. cessé de croire à la puissance des priéres qui y sont faites. Chichester. Parfois encore, vers le soir, on voit des ombres honteuses se glisser furtivement vers ce triste édifice, placé au haut OWRES LIGHTSHIP. — In Shaw's Tour to the d'un coteau sans verdure. Ce sont des jeunes pupilles West of England in 1788' the following passage lassés de la surveillance de leurs tuteurs, des veillards jaloux de la prosperité d'un voisio, des femmes trop rude. “In our return to shore we rowed down the harbour lå prier pour la mort de l'objet de leur haine. Trois ment froissées par le despotisme d'un mari, qui viennent [Portsmouth] to inspect a new vessel called the Owres • Ave,' dévotement répétés, amènent irrévocablement Light-House, just arrived from London. This is upon a cette mort dans l'année.” new construction, a floating light; a sloop to carry twenty men. From the centre rises a strong mast with an immense This luridly poetic picture is from Souvestro's globular frame of glass on the top, which contains many Derniers Bretons,' i. 92, but Mr. Elton does not lamps similar to tho light house on Eddystone rock, and give the date of that work, and the spelling and those on the west end of Portland Island. This curious accentuation of the French passage is exactly vehicle is going immediately to be stationed at the Owres, a dangerous heap of rocks a few leagues northreproduced from Mr. Elton's note. east of Portsmouth, the terror of mariners, and which JAMES HOOPER, our boatman complained 'had made his heart ach many Norwich. Was this the first lightship placed round the bour of mine desires information concerning his NEW TESTAMENT, BISHOPS' VERSION.-A neighcoasts of Britain ; and what was the ultimate fate of this “sloop to carry twenty men”? copy of the Bishops' New Testament. It is im. H. O. L. MORRIS, M.D. perfect, lacking all before p. 3, sig. A iii, on Bognor. which begins "The Gospel by Saint Matthew"; fol. 82, the map and "Order of Times” at the end MOTTO.-Can any reader of 'N. & Q.' suggest of the Acts; and all after fol. 132, the verso of an explanation of the motto used for a long time which ends with the first verse of Rev. xii. It is by the family of Paynter of Boskenna, in Cornwall, a folio, beautifully printed in a bold Gothic letter, occurs : a time.'" |