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RISKS AND CONTROL OF FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE

HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

United States. Congress. Heuse. A
SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE.
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-FOURTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

NOVEMBER 4, 6, DECEMBER 2, 3, 9, 10, 11, 12, AND 17, 1975

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CONTENTS

WITNESSES

November 4, 1975:

John Blake, Deputy Director, Administration; Carl Duckett, Deputy Director, Science & Technology; William Nelson, Deputy Director, Operations CIA; and Mitchell Rogovin, Special Counsel to the Page Director of Central Intelligence_.

November 6, 1975:

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William E. Colby, Director, Central Intelligence Agency, accompanied by William Nelson, Deputy Director of Operations, Central Intelligence Agency; and Mitchell Rogovin, Special Counsel to the Director of Central Intelligence---

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December 2, 1975 :

Admiral Elmo R. Zumwalt, U.S. Navy (Ret.), former Chief of Naval
Operations

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December 3, 1975:

Lt. Gen. Daniel O. Graham, U.S. Army, Director, Defense Intelligence
Agency, accompanied by Charles L. Desaulneirs, DIA___
Richard G. McArthur, former commissioned Military Intelligence
Officer, USA, and Col. Henry A. Shockley, former Chief of Intelli-
gence Collection in Vietnam.

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William E. Colby, Director, Central Intelligence Agency, accompanied
by Paul V. Walsh, Asssociate Deputy Director for Intelligence;
George Carver, Deputy for National Intelligence Officer; Mitchell
Rogovin, Special Counsel to the Director, and George W. Allen,
Director, Imagery Analysis Service, CIA__
James C. Graham, former CIA employee‒‒‒‒‒
December 9, 1975:

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Mitchell Rogovin, Special Counsel to the Director of Central Intelligence

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Norman Dorsen, Professor of Law, New York University Law School, General Counsel to the American Civil Liberties Union, President of the Society of American Law Teachers__

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Gerhard Casper, Professor of Law, University of Chicago Law School 1746 December 10, 1975:

Roger Fisher, Professor of Law, Harvard University--
McGeorge Bundy, former Assistant to the President for National
Security Affairs__

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Nicholas deB. Katzenbach, former U.S. Attorney General___.

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December 11, 1975:

Hon. Michael J. Harrington, a Representative in Congress from the
State of Massachusetts.

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Hon. John B. Anderson, a Representative in Congress, from the State of Illinois_

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Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., former special assistant to President John F.
Kennedy

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Leo Cherne, member, President's Foreign Advisory Board; Executive
Director, Research Institute of America ----

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Vice Admiral Earl F. Rectanus, U.S. Navy, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense (Resources and Management), Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Intelligence) _.

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Arthur M. Cox, writer and lecturer on foreign affairs and a former official of both the Department of State and the Central Intelligence Agency

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William G. Hyland, Deputy Assistant to the President for National
Security Affairs----

December 17, 1975:

Edward W. Proctor, Deputy Director for Intelligence, Central Intelli-
gence Agency_.

Ray S. Cline, Executive Director of Studies, Center for Strategic and
International Studies, Georgetown University-

Additional statements and material submitted for the record:

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"Political Aspects of Chester Cooper's Assignment to the NSC Staff"-- 1591 "Soviets Cheat and We Turn Our Backs," by Elmo R. Zumwalt, Jr., and Worth Bagley (submitted by Admiral Zumwalt). "Memorandum to the President of the United States," concerning strategic arms limitations (submitted by Admiral Zumwalt)_. "The Defense Attaché Office in Saigon" (supplemental statement of Col. Henry A. Shockley ) ‒‒‒

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Prepared statement of William E. Colby.
Prepared statement of Roger Fisher-_-
Prepared statement of Ray S. Cline-----

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APPENDIXES

Appendix I.-"Journalists Doubling as CIA Contacts," by Oswald John-
ston (the "Washington Star-News," November 30, 1973)--
Appendix II.-Supplemental material submitted by Admiral Zumwalt
relative to committee hearing of December 2, 1975--

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Appendix III.-Excerpts from Special National Intelligence Estimate No. 14.3-67, "Capabilities of the Vietnamese Communists for Fighting in South Vietnam"-November 13, 1967---

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Appendix IV.-Excerpts from "Intelligence Warning of the Tet Offensive in South Vietnam"-April 11, 1968–.

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Appendix V.-Correspondence from July 1975 "Harper's" magazine relative article entitled "Vietnam Cover-up:

Playing War With Numbers," by Sam Adams--.
Appendix VI.-Correspondence between Congressman Dale Milford and
Gen. W. C. Westmoreland relating to committee's hearing on the Tet
offensive

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Appendix VII.-Correspondence between committee staff and CIA regarding interpretation of section 662, Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, as amended (the Hughes-Ryan amendment).

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Appendix VIII.-"Foreign Policy, Public Opinion and Secrecy," by Nicho-
las deB. Katzenbach (from "Foreign Affairs," October 1973) –
Appendix IX.-Statement of Congressman Albert H. Quie, prepared for
presentation at committee's hearing of December 11, 1975.

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CIA PROCUREMENT PRACTICES

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 1975

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE,

Washington, D.C.

The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:10 a.m., in room 2154, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Otis G. Pike [chairman], presiding.

Present: Representatives Pike, Giaimo, Dellums, Aspin, Hayes, Milford, Lehman, McClory, Treen, Johnson, and Kasten.

Also present: A. Searle Field, staff director; Aaron B. Donner, general counsel; Jack Boos, counsel; Sandra Zeune, James C. Mingee, Roger Carroll, and Charles Mattox, investigators.

Chairman PIKE. The committee will now proceed with its scheduled hearing for today, which relates to certain procurement practices of the CIA. Our witnesses from the Agency are Mr. John Blake, the Deputy Director for Administration, Mr. Carl Duckett, the Deputy Director for Science and Technology, and Mr. William Nelson, the Deputy Director for Operations.

STATEMENTS OF JOHN BLAKE, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, ADMINISTRATION, CARL DUCKETT, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, SCIENCE & TECHNOL. OGY, WILLIAM NELSON, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, OPERATIONS, CIA; ACCOMPANIED BY MITCHELL ROGOVIN, SPECIAL COUNSEL, DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE

Mr. ROGOVIN. Mr. Chairman, we believe that it would be most effective if the three Deputy Directors would respond directly to questions of the committee. There are no opening statements.

Chairman PIKE. There are no opening statements at all?
Mr. ROGOVIN. That is correct.

Chairman PIKE. Well, you catch me a little aback. Maybe the staff has some questions for us. Go ahead, Mr. Rogovin.

Mr. ROGOVIN. Mr. Chairman, we are quite anxious to have these witnesses testify in open session to the fullest extent that they can. When we get to areas where the answers are best given in executive session, the witness will respond in that fashion.

Chairman PIKE. I quite understand. I only caution the witnesses not to leave any documents on the table when they leave.

I think we will go right into this. I don't know which of the three witnesses we should properly address this question to. I think perhaps Mr. Duckett would be the best person to respond:

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