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HEART-BURIAL IN NICHES IN CHURCH WALLS (11 S. viii. 289, 336, 352, 391, 432). -As one of your correspondents at the last reference is under the impression that the body of Sir Nicholas Crispe is buried in St. Mildred's, Bread Street, I beg first of all to say that Sir Nicholas Crispe, by his will dated 23 Feb., 1665, directed that his executors should

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cause my Heart to be Imbalmed And to be put into a small vrne made of the hardest stone and ffastned in it placed vpon a Pillor of the best and hardest Black Marble to be sett vp in Hammersmith Chappell neare my Pew the place I soe dearely loved And I appoint my body to be put into a Leaden Coffin and laid in a vault in St Mildreds Church in Breadstreete in London That I made for my Parentes and Posterity which Leaden Coffin I appoint to be put into a Stone

Coffin to be covered with a stone."
The following is the inscription :—

Here Lyeth ye Body of Sr
Nicholas Crisp Ktt & Barronett
one of ye Farmers of His
Magyesties Cvstomes who
departed this life ye 27 of
Febrvary 1665
Aged 67 years.

The body of Sir Nicholas Crispe was enclosed in a lead coffin roughly shaped to his likeness, with a bas-relief of features, hands, and feet on a stone coffin, in the family vault of St. Mildred's Church. But in 1898, by an Order in Council, nearly 500 bodies buried beneath the church were reverently reinterred in Brookwood Cemetery, and the remains of Sir Nicholas were reburied in Hammersmith Churchyard.

These directions were carried out, and' the heart, in an urn of white marble, was: placed beneath a bronze bust of King Charles I. which Crisp had erected to his memory.

Crisp's body was buried in St. Mildred's, Bread Street, and when that church was: cleared of human remains, his stone coffin. was found intact. Mr. G. Milner-Gibson

Cullum, a descendant, obtained a faculty for its removal to Hammersmith, which was: done on 18 June, 1898. A large number of people bearing the name of Crisp attended' the memorial service, several of whom, with Mr. Cullum and the late Mr. Churchwarden Platt, subscribed liberally towards the costentailed. The late Mr. T. E. Crispe, K.C.,. delivered an eloquent address on the occasion. The tomb is placed on the east sideof the tower, and the original coffin-lid of black marble, with a quaint inscription, is: let into the wall above.

S. MARTIN, Churchwarden. Public Library, Ravenscourt Park.

SPONG (11 S. viii. 389, 456).-The Spongs mentioned by MR. KING and COL. FYNMORE are apparently all descendants of the William Spong of Rochester whose ancestry I inquired for. He died 1787, aged 69, and married Mary, dau. of Robert Starke by Elizabeth, dau. of John Fuller. She died 1807, aged 78. I do not know what. coat of arms the family bore, but I think that they used a goat's head couped as a

crest.

G. D. LUMB.

The memorial, which is in the Parish MATTHEW PARKER'S ORDINATION (11 S. Church of Hammersmith, consists of a bronze viii. 488). The "Ordo Ceremoniarum bust of King Charles I., and bears the in-used at the consecration of Parker to Canterscription:bury (not ordination) has been often re"The effigie was erected by the special appoint-printed from his own Register: e.g., by A. W. ment of Sir Nicholas Crispe, Knight and Baronet, Haddan, Apostolical Succession in the a grateful commemoration of the glorious Church of England' (London, 1869), pp. 357– martyr King Charles the First of Blessed memory." 360, and by E. Denny and T. A. Lacey, De Hierarchiâ Anglicanâ Dissertatio Apologetica (London, 1895), pp. 208-10. The Ordinal used was the revived Second Ordinal (1552) of Edward VI.

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Beneath the bust of Charles I. is a marble urn with the following inscription :

"Within this urn is entombed the heart of Sir Nicholas Crispe, Knight and Baronet, a loyal sharer in the sufferings of his late and present Majesty."

ADAM GLENDINNING NASH, Rector of St. Mildred, Bread Street, with St. Margaret Moyses, and Hon. Canon of Ripon Cathedral. 4, Harley House, Regent's Park, N.W. The urn containing the heart of Sir Nicholas Crisp in St. Paul's Church, Hammersmith, has never been enclosed in a pillar or niche in the present building or its predecessor. His will, dated 23 Feb.. 1665, directed ut supra.

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W. A. B. COOLIDGE.

GOVERNOR WALKER (11 S. vii. 348; viii. 54, 150).-In answer to the correspondent who asks for the birthplace of Walker, the hero of the Siege of Londonderry-the editor of Trewman's Exeter Flying Post in July, 1911, claimed him as a native of "Semper Fidelis," and said this fact was not generally known. I suggest your correspondent put himself in communication with the editor of that journal. D.N.B. does not mention his birthplace. EDWARD WEST.

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Samplers and Tapestry Embroideries. By Marcus B. Huish. (Longmans & Co.)

THIS is a second edition of a work which, it cannot be denied, possesses considerable attractiveness. It is depressing in that it witnesses to a steady decay of true feeling for decorative art and design in the nation at large. The women who set patterns for youthful fingers to work in the later eighteenth and nineteenth centuries seem to have lost the fine instinct which guided their grandmothers and great-grandmothers in the seventeenth century and a decade or two succeeding it. Unfortunately it is such compositions as theirs-only inferior still-that we find in the few samplers of the late nineteenth century, and in analogous attempts at decoration on the part of people who have not been specially trained in design.

The present edition is issued at a more popular price than the former one, and includes descriptions and illustrations of several American samplers. The samplers are much more interesting-even more valid as art than the tapestry broideries. They do not lend themselves easily to em the production of a brilliant text; but, on the other hand, they are excellent subjects for illustration, and the plates in this volume could hardly be overpraised. They are perfectly delightful. It may be noted that they include the quaint sampler, done by E. Philips in 1761, at the age of 7, which was adapted to form the drop-scene for 'Peter Pan.'

READERS of N. & Q.' will turn in the current Nineteenth Century with some special interest to the 'Recollections of the War of 1870 and the Commune,' which Miss Gertrude Tuckwell gives us from the literary remains of Sir Charles Dilke. They offer a series of minute, vivid pictures, somewhat aside from the main course of events, and include several entertaining episodes as well as instructive and suggestive observations. Two other articles composed of, or dealing with, "originals,' are Mr. Alexander Carlyle's Eight New Love Letters of Jane Welsh,' and Sir Ernest Clarke's' David Garrick and Junius.' The former conveys to us an important find in the matter of the literature connected with Carlyle. Mr. Stephen Gwynn's interesting paper on The Irish Gentry' is illustrated from the career of George Henry Moore, who died in 1870. Mr. Darrell Figgis in

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Some Recent Poetry lays his finger rather adroitly on certain of the weaknesses of modern poets. Mr. Cyril Emmet in The Teaching of the Historic Christ' reprints with some amplifications a paper given at the recent Church Congress at Southampton. The remaining papers are concerned with the more acute political and social difficulties of the moment.

THE January Cornhill has much to recommend it. It begins with two unpublished poems of Browning's early youth, in a pleasant setting by Mr. Bertram Dobell. These-even if we take them

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as mere echoes and imitations-are indeed remarkable work for a boy of 14, and like Mr. Dobell we do not remember anything parallel to them done Aunts' is another of her delicate and lively stories at so early an age. Miss W. M. Letts's 'Grandof people of a past generation, containing more anecdote than the last, but less perhaps of vitality; she is dealing with characters she did not personally know so well. Bishop Frodsham's 'The Men hemmed in by the Spears' is one of the most the way, is not "as cold as charity" a quaint idiom successful of his papers that we have seen. to fall from the pen of a Bishop? Mr. C. A. Vince's Jack and Jill: a Theme with Variations," tells us that well-known tale in the manner of twelve well-known writers. It is curious that the least successful should be the imitation of Scott's verse-apparently so easy to parody. To our thinking the best are the Goldsmith, Tennyson, William Morris, and Max Müller. Sir Henry Lucy's 'Sixty Years in the Wilderness: Nearing Jordan,' furnish some twenty pages of particularly good reading. Bishop Welldon has a short article commemorative of Miss Gaskell, the last surviving daughter of Mrs. Gaskell. We liked much General Sir Neville Lyttelton's account of Wadsworth, one of the finest of the leaders in the struggle between the Northern and Southern States of America-too little known until the recent publication of his biography by Mr. H. G. Pearson. Judge Parry is at his whimsical and humorous best in The Law of the Lost Golf Ball.' In this entitled 'Spragge's Canyon." number begins a serial by Mr. Horace Vachell

THE two main literary papers in the January Fortnightly are Goethe in Rome,' by the Master of University College, Oxford, and William Hazlitt, Romantic and Amorist,' by Mr. Walter Sichel. Both are good: both may well afford pleasure and instruction to the general reader, and matter to be stored up and dwelt upon to the students of Goethe and Hazlitt respectively. There is a lively paper entitled The Romance of the Scarlet Woman,' which takes us back to the vagaries of "No Popery" in the mid-nineteenth century — vagaries which, as psychological phenomena, are certainly extremely curious as well as entertaining. Mr. Henry Baerlein has an illuminating article on The State of Alsace and Lorraine,' which, apart from political significances, illustrates, in a remarkable way, the obstinate persistence of even the narrower racial distinctions and their accompanying self-consciousness. Two characters whose rôle in Eastern Europe must needs fix the eyes of the world upon them, are described with insight and the command of information which we should expect by Mr. Spencer Campbell in Ferdinand, Tsar of the Bulgarians,' and by Miss Edith Sellers in The Future Emperor-King's Political Programme.

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Mr. Barnes Stevens has entitled his paper The Ravages of the Black Death in the Fourteenth Century,' which is rather lucus a non lucendo, for it deals almost entirely with later centuries interesting piece of work. Mr. A. G. Bradley's 'Captain John Smith' is one of the best things in the number. The other articles deal for the most part with burning questions in politics; though we must not leave unmentioned, as if included among them, Mr. Holford Knight's well-reasoned plea for the creation of an English Bar Association.

BOOKSELLERS' CATALOGUES.-JANUARY.

MR. P. M. BARNARD of Tunbridge Wells has just issued his Catalogue 81-Rare Tudor and Stuart Books (192 items)-containing a number of scarce and interesting works. Among the more notable are the first edition of Arnold's 'Chronicle,' 1503, 18.; The first Examinacyon and the lattre Examinacyon of Anne Askew,' Wesel, 1546-7, 87. 108.; the second folio of Beaumont and Fletcher's Comedies and Tragedies,' 1679, 77. 10s.; a collection of 25 unpublished original drawings by James Jefferys, to illustrate the Canterbury Tales,' 1781, 31. 10s.; The Countesse of Pembrokes Yuychurch, by Abraham Fraunce, 1591, 451.; Gower's 'De Confessione Amantis,' 1532, 14.; Hardyng's 'Chronicle,' 1543, 16.; Hookes's Amanda,' 1653 21. 158. ; Lok's Ecclesiastes,' 1597, with the 60 additional sonnets at the end, known to exist in only three other copies, 201.; Marvell's Miscellaneous Poems,' first edition, 1681, 77. 10; Mirror for Magistrates,' 1574, 77. 158.; An Almond for a Parrat,' attributed to Nash (? 1590), 12/. 108.; and Hart's Orthographie,' 1569, the first edition of the earliest English treatise on orthography, 341. A special feature has been made in this catalogue of the notes appended to each item, which are full of interest for the bibliographical and literary student.

The second part includes charters or documents relating to Cheshire (dated 1574), Devon (1289, 1329), Dorset (1313, 1330), Essex (1348, 1389), Herts (1290, 1402), Jamaica (1660, 1832), Kent (1261, 1327), Norfolk (1426), Surrey (1446), and Yorkshire (1293).

MESSRS. ELLIS's Catalogue No. 150 begins with a workmanlike and interesting account of the bookselling business founded at 29, New Bond Street by John Brindley in 1728, and carried on there ever since. The 150 items which are next described compose one of the most interesting Catalogues which we have recently seen. There are many manuscript Hora and several Incunabula, and the excellent illustrations and careful letterpress may enable the reader, whose purse will not stretch to the dimensions necessary for acquisition, to form some definite idea of these treasures. That which, from the connoisseur's point of view, is the most remarkable of the MSS., which, we admit, appealed to us much less than some of the humbler works, is the Missale Bononiense, made for the church of St. Petronius at Bologna at the end of the fifteenth century or beginning of the next. It contains forty miniatures, and magnificent borders, all in the Renaissance style and of exquisite execution, and it is to be had for 1,7501. An interesting feature of this collection is the number of Sarum items in it. There are two fine Hore ad usum Sarum,' the one-offered at 1801.-a Gothic MS. of the

fifteenth century on vellum, finely illuminated with two miniatures; and the other, also of the fifteenth century, a small 8vo with nine miniatures, initials, Two others are 'Hore Beatisand borders, 551. sime Virginis Marie ad veru (legitimum) Sarisburiensis Ecclesie ritu,' printed in Gothic letter, the one in 1527 by Prevost, the other by Regnault, 1534. Both are illustrated with numerous woodcuts, and the latter has English verses in the Calendar. From this too, in accordance with Henry VIII.'s command, the names of the Popes and of St. Thomas of Canterbury have been erased. The prices are respectively S5. and 65. There are further a copy of the Sarum Manual printed at Antwerp in 1543, 657.; a copy of Cousin's Sarum Missal, 1519, 1857.; Processional, printed in London, 1555, 35/. Merlin's Sarum Breviary, 1556, 901.; and the Sarum

We have not space to do more than mention six or seven further items in the briefest way. We noticed a copy of the Oxford 'Exposicio' of 'St. Jerome'-the first book printed at Oxford if not in England-1468 (? 1478), 3301.; a First Prayer Book of Edward VI., 1549, 140.; two Caxtons, of which the more important is a copy of The Fayttes of Armes and of Chyualrye,' 2251.; a thirteenthcentury Psalter, in Gothic character, with six fullpage paintings and other elaborate decoration, 750.; a delightful little book of devotion, c. 1485, Rosarium Beate Marie Vgis.,' containing fiftyseven coloured woodcuts, 1201.; Wynkyn de Worde's Vitas Patrum,' 1495, 1201.; and a Dutch MS. 'Gebedeboek' of the fifteenth century, 3751. [Notices of other Catalogues held over.]

Notices to Correspondents.

CORRESPONDENTS who send letters to be forwarded to other contributors should put on the top left-hand corner of their envelopes the number of the page of N. & Q.' to which their letters refer, so that the contributor may be readily identified.

EDITORIAL Communications should be addressed to "The Editor of Notes and Queries """"-Advertisements and Business Letters to "The Publishers "-at the Office, Bream's Buildings, Chancery Lane, E.C.

To secure insertion of communications correspondents must observe the following rules. Let each note, query, or reply be written on a separate slip of paper, with the signature of the writer and such address as he wishes to appear. When answering queries, or making notes with regard to previous entries in the paper, contributors are requested to put in parentheses, immediately after the exact heading, the series, volume, and page or pages to which they refer. Correspondents who repeat queries are requested to head the second communication "Duplicate."

MR. M. L. R. BRESLAR.-The saying inquired for is evidently the sentence from Fletcher of Saltoun's 'an Account of a Conversation concerning a Right Regulation of Governments for the Common Good of Mankind' (1704), published anonymously. It runs: "I knew a very wise man so much of Sir Christopher's sentiment that he believed if a man were permitted to make all the ballads, he need not care who should make the laws, of a nation."

LONDON, SATURDAY, JANUARY 17, 1914.

CONTENTS.-No. 212

NOTES:-William III. and the Elector of Brandenburgh,
41-Robert Baron, Author of Mirza,' 43-Inscriptions in
Holy Trinity Churchyard, Shaftesbury, 44-Termination
"ile"-County of Gloucester: Philip Jones, 45-Cricket
in 1773-W. Parsons: Life or Horse Guards, 46-W.
Upcott and 'The Anti-Jacobin" Lunettes d'approche"
-Suspension of Newspaper Publication on Christmas
'Day, 47.

QUERIES:-Dido's Purchase of Land, 47-Fatima's Hand
-Sundial Inscription-Lock, Fanny Burney's Friend-
Locke Family-Dr. Dundey, 48- Nollekens and his
Times-Sir G. White-Voltaire on the Jews-Jock
Elliot Sir C. Hamilton-Gilbert Family Rule of
Succession-Middlesex Painted Glass-Fire - Walking-
Pictures with "Broken Glass" Effects, 49-T. Tayler,
Modeller in Wax-"Dowle" Chamber-Damant-Author
Wanted-Buckeridge Street-Ilfracombe, 50-Coffin-
shaped Chapels-York House, Whitehall-Droitwich
Church Plate The Sabbath in Abyssinia-Burr Street-
Swedish Ambassador, 51.

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REPLIES:-Humorous Stories, 51-"Beau père," 52-
Colour of Liveries-"Rucksack"-R. Grey-Sir John
Langham, 53-Kester mel way-Agnes Crophall, Lady
Devereux-Cottington, 54-" Barring out"-The Great
Eastern, 55-Douglas Epitaph in Bohemia-Capt. J.
Warde- Richard Andrewes Duplicate Marriage
Military Coloured Print Hamlett, Profile Artist
Picture Cards Dilling," 56-Authors of Quotations
Wanted-Capt. Woodes Rogers-Anthony Munday-G. F
Raymond-Pyrothonide-Old London Streets, 57-Badge
of the 6th Foot-Dickens in London, 58.

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NOTES ON BOOKS:-'London in English Literature'-
'John Evelyn in Naples.'
OBITUARY:-W. E. A. Axon, LL.D.
Notices to Correspondents.

Notes.

M. Waddington, in his L'Acquisition de la Couronne Royale par les Hohenzollern,' pp. 35-8, investigates this tale, and comes to the following conclusion. While admitting that there could not be so much smoke without some fire, he shows that Frederick was only following the example of his world in fighting tooth and nail for any sort of addition to his state or power. Besides, it is known from many sources that the misunderstanding between Frederick and William arose from the former's suddenly disgracing his chief minister tutor, and a Danckelmann, his former firm and useful friend of the allies (Waddington, pp. 250 sqq.). M. Waddington, indeed, goes so far in his scepticism as to doubt whether William III. raised any difficulties about his cousin's session at any one of their three meetings in 1691, 1695, and 1696.

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The present writer, in the course researches among the State Papers of the time (especially in P.R.O., State Papers Foreign, Military Expeditions I.), has come on evidence which enables us to dot the is It shows that of the French historian. William III. did undoubtedly refuse the But it is armchair to Frederick in 1696. clear that he acted on principle, and refused the same honour to all other Electors. Frederick resented the slur more keenly than they did, he had a secret source of bitterness, for the dispatches of the English diplomatists Stepney and Prior reveal an unexpected connexion between the niceties of etiquette and a curious and entertaining matrimonial adventure of William III.

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When William III. became a widower at the end of 1694, his followers were exceedingly anxious for him to marry again, and, if God willed, to leave an heir to his great

some years of fifty, and, though infirm in health and irritable in temper, was by far the greatest match in Protestant Europe. The daughters of the King of Denmark, the Elector of Brandenburgh, and the Landgrave of Hesse, and even of the Duke of Orleans or the Emperor, were all mentioned as willing to console him in his bereavement.* But of all the fond fathers the Elector of Branden

WILLIAM III. OF ENGLAND AND THE ELECTOR OF BRANDENBURGH. IT is well known that both his contem-power and possessions. He still wanted poraries and posterity have agreed in ascribing the transformation of Frederick I. of Prussia from a simple Elector into a King to his troubles over etiquette. The refusal of the privilege of an armchair to him at his meeting with William III. of England is said, to have chagrined him so deeply that he seated himself on a throne as a necessary preliminary to enjoying an armchair in any company whatsoever. Frederick I.'s rest-burgh was the most pressing. Frederick less vanity and passion for ceremonial, and the fact that his devotion to William III. suddenly gave place to a sharp quarrel, lend support to a story which has been adorned by numerous moralists and wits. “An armchair," says his grandson Frederick II., "nearly estranged these princes for ever."

was an inveterate matchmaker, and took a strong reversionary interest in his childless cousin of Orange and all he possessed.

* See Hist. MSS. Comm. Rep., MSS. of the Duke of Buccleuch at Montagu House,' vol. ii. part i., Introduction, p. xix; also Lexington Papers,"

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It is pretty certain that William III. never really wavered in his loyalty to the memory of his dead wife. In 1696, when the hopes of his expectant fathers-in-law waxed highest, Stepney wrote to Secretary Trumbull from Loo on 24 Aug./3 Sept. :"I have beene told that a Gentleman of easy accesse to the King, being about to entertain His Majesty with what com'on report said of this match, was answered very short That tho they might have so soon forgott ye Queen He had not."* Nor was he likely to be enticed into double harness by the Princess of Brandenburgh, an unformed and unattractive girl of sixteen. Prior described her as "not ugly, but disagreeable; a tall miss at a boarding-school, with a scraggy, lean neck." To this Stepney added that her conversation is not great or her air noble"; while providently remarking that she had " very good principles of religion, and may make a reserved, devout and dutiful wife."

William had gained plenty of experience in the matrimonial market, and was in general perfectly able to take care of himself. But the Elector pressed the matter so earnestly that in 1696 things began to look serious. Diplomatic circles in England and on the Continent were all a-flutter over the rumours. William had promised to pay a visit to the Brandenburgh family at Cleves. But the Elector's indiscretion had brought matters to such a pitch that a confidential meeting between the two rulers would give an official sanction to the common report of the marriage. If William rejected the union at that stage, he would inflict a rankling wound on his cousin's self-esteem. On the other hand, the unfavourable accounts of the Princess had quite cured him of any thoughts of sacrificing himself to reasons of State. An ingenious expedient was thought of for turning the visit into a brief ceremony in which nothing private could be discussed.

To soften ye matter in respect of ye Lady [wrote Stepney to Trumbull], and that this sudden resolution may not pass in ye world as ye effect of Coldness and neglect, a point of Ceremony may chance to be laid hold of, which may render ye Kings visiting ye Elector next door to impractic able; for you know, Sir, wherever His Majesty appears He is seat'd in an arm'd chair, which he does not allow even to ye Elector of Bavaria [the commander of the Spanish forces in the army of the Allies] when ye Elector comes to visit him at

*S.P. Foreign, Military Expeditions I.

+ Hist. MSS. Comm. Rep., MSS. of the Duke of Buccleuch at Montagu House,' vol. ii. part ii. p. 1.

S.P. Foreign, Military Expeditions I., Stepney to Trumbull, Sept. 8/18, 1693.

his own Quarters; and when he returns the visit it is standing that ye Elector may not seat himself in an arm'd chair likewise, and for this reason they never eat together: Now ye same difficulty will subsist in respect of ye Elector of Brandenburgh, who without doubt stands upon ye same point of ceremony as ye other Elector, alledging that ye honour of an arm'd Chair is allowd him by the Emperor, when they meet at Elections and other such like ceremonious occasions, and ought much less to be disputed him at Cleves which is a sort of his own Residence; But His Majesty (if he have a mind to avoid ye Rencontre) may be apt to insist upon what has ever been practised by our Kings of England, and will not think it reasonable to let in respect of ye Elector of Bavaria: However if fall what he has hitherto so firmly maintained Passion prevails, it will break through these nicetyes by pretending to be incognito, like Jupiter in disguise, and you 'le give me leave to apply in this case- -Non bene conveniunt nec in una sede suspend our thoughts for three or four days, and morantur Majestas et Amor. But we had best by that time wee may perceive whether ye King or the Lover getts ye best on 't."*

The King easily conquered the lover, and the event was much as Stepney had predicted. Taking his friend the old Duke of Zell with him as chaperon, "that the World may not continue to report that there is any Passion in this Civillity," William III. paid a flying visit for Saturday night only to Cleves. He saw the Elector merely at meeting and parting, and during a walk in the gardens. The rest of the time was pretty equally divided between meals, to which" the Elector could not be admitted because of ye point of ye Armd chair which I have formerly mentioned," a lengthy game of ombre, and an "indifferent sermon" in the King's own room, from both of which he was absent for the same reason. The game of ombre was played in the Electress's bedroom, and lasted four or five hours, the King sitting in an armchair, the Duke of Zell in an ordinary one, and the Electress compromising by perching herself on the bed.

"The Poore Princesse stood all ye while as a Spectator without being asked to sit down, though Mr K(eppel) [the King's assistant at the game] had a chair, whereat I perceive some people who mind Ceremony are offended."S

Though Prior could report that "as far as I could guess he does not much mislike *S.P. Foreign, Military Expeditions I., 3 Sept. 24 Aug., 1696, from Loo.

† Ibid., 10 Sept./31 Aug.

Another account of the visit, which confirms the above in all particulars, is given in Prior's Journal' in the MSS. of the Marquis of Bath,' vol. iii. p. 508 (Hist. MSS. Comm. Rep.).

§ S.P. Foreign, Military Expeditions I., Stepney to Trumbull, Loo, 8/18 Sept.

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