I feel doubtful, however, regarding the morning I counted four entirely different origin of the name ducks" as descriptive orthographies of this name. The spelling of Bombay soldiers or civilians (the 'N.Ê.D.' at the head of this note I take from an and Yule differ as to which is meant). Were excellent authority, Redhouse's Turkish the Bombay men so called from the popular Lexicon,' 1890. It has the merit, at any name of the fish, or from the fact (if it be rate, of being easy to pronounce. Dolma a fact) that they wore clothes (? trousers) | Bagcha means "the filled-up little park,' of duck? TheN.E.D.' I notice, favours this part of Constantinople being on the neither of these derivations, but implies site of a former harbour: dolma, filled up; that the soldiers of the Bombay Presidency bagcha, a little garden or park. got their name from the bird. Perhaps some reader of N. & Q.' can solve this question. Returning to the dried fish, I may mention that in Ceylon it is called by the Sinhalese bombili, but I suspect that this name was introduced into the island with the condiment, which has a large sale there. DONALD FERGUSON. CHAUCER'S TWO ALLUSIONS TO PERSIUS. -In The Canterbury Tales,' F 721, occurs the line I sleep never on the mount of Pernaso, which (as we learn from a side-note in the Ellesmere MS.) was suggested by 1. 2 of the prologue to the Satires of Persius, viz., 6 Neque in bicipiti somniasse Parnasso Memini, &c. I now find that Chaucer was indebted to another passage in the same very short prologue for the remarkable form "Pegasee (for Pegaseus), which occurs in The Squire's Tale,' F 207. Here another marginal note in the same MS. has equus Pegaseus. I have noted (Chaucer's Works,' v. 376) that Chaucer was thinking of the adjectival form Pegaseus rather than of Pegasus as a substantive. This is not quite right, but very nearly so. For a side-note in the Cambridge MS. Dd. tells us a little more. runs thus: "id est, equus Pegaseus Percius 4to." Here either 4to is an error for 14to," or it is short for "quatuordecimo," sc. versu," as the allusion is obviously to 1. 14 of the same prologue, viz., 66 66 66 It Cantare credas Pegaseium nectar; the only allusion (I believe) to Pegasus that occurs in Persius, and only twelve lines distant from the line quoted above. This shows that Chaucer evolved the form Pegaseus as a sb. from the adjectival form Pegaseius. WALTER W. SKEAT. DOLMA BAGCHA, CONSTANTINOPLE.-The name of this palace has been before the public very prominently of late in the innumerable articles referring to the new Sultan of Turkey; but its spelling presents a difficulty: in The Daily Telegraph one : JAS. PLATT, Jun. 66 'YAMUYLE," A VICTUAL.- The Brut; or, the Chronicles of England' (E.E.T.S.) has at p. 435, dating c. 1480, and referring to the siege of Orleans: "vij M: of Frensshe men fill vpon oure men as they went toward the Toune with vitaill that is called yamuyle." This can hardly be other than the French gamelle (Lat. camella), a military term for a mess bowl, or platter; hence the mess itself. H. P. L. JOHN ANGEL OR ANGER.-In Musgrave's Obituary' there are two entries, John Anger and John Angel, under date 25 Jan., 1751, The London Magazine has both of them in its list of deaths. The Gentleman's Magazine has only that referring to John Anger. John Anger is described in both as a proprietor of lighthouses in the North for the conveniency of shipping; John Angel as in the commission of peace for Surrey. John Anger is a myth. John Angel was the proprietor of the lighthouses in the North, as will be seen by a reference to his will, proved (P.C.C. Busby 68) 1 March, 1751, as follows: "I do hereby give devise and bequeath unto my good friends and executors Mr. Robert Alsop one of the Aldermen of the City of London Mr. William Cockell of Blackwell Hall London Factor and Mr. Nicholas Spencer of the Parish of St. Margaret Westminster in the County of Middlesex Sadler and their heirs all that my Lighthouse or Lights erected and built upon a piece of ground Head at the Mouth of the River Humber in the situate lying and being on the Spurne Point or County of York." Owing to a printer's or possibly clerical error, Gent. Mag. makes Angel read Anger, and this, being copied by the London, has been perpetuated in Musgrave. M. B. LORD ALTHORP IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS IN 1806.-In Le Marchant's Memoir of Viscount Althorp, Earl Spencer' (p. 88), it is stated that Althorp, "having been obliged to retire from Okehampton when he stood for the University" (of Cambridge on Pitt's death), "had to seek another seat, and found one very expeditiously at St. Albans." This statement is reproduced in the 'D.N.B.'; but despite these authorities it is incorrect. Althorp vacated his seat for Okehampton on accepting office as a Lord of the Treasury early in February: the poll for Cambridge took place on 7 Feb.; the new writ for Okehampton was ordered on that day, and Althorp was re-elected for his old constituency on 15 Feb. He never sat for, nor did he ever contest, St. Albans. How easily errors are made and perpetuated in works of standard authority! 66 ALFRED B. BEAVEN, M.A. "BRING," ARCHAIC USE.-I was under the impression that the use of this verb in the sense of to take in certain quarters in America, not always of necessity plebeian ones, was а mere vulgarism, as in the phrase Bring that letter to the post office " ; but I find that Dr. Marcus Hartog, an old fellow-student of mine at University College, London, in an article (by himself and Miss Hayden) on the Irish dialect of English in The Fortnightly Review of April instances it as a current Irish use having an older English origin. I do not find this early use of "to bring noticed in the N.E.D.,' however, which merely mentions the totally dissimilar bring to," as in to bring her to," i.e., persuade (Tom Jones'); "to bring her to," i.e., revive ('Uncle Tom's Cabin '); and the nautical locution to bring to a ship," i.e., to cause it to stop. 46 66 New York. 66 66 Selkirk's adventures, except that the com- Queries. WE must request correspondents desiring information on family matters of only private interest to affix their names and addresses to their queries, in order that answers may be sent to them direct. SIR FRANCIS BACON ON TASTING.-Can any of your readers give me the exact reference for the following statement, which is said to have been made by Sir Francis Bacon in his 'Natural Philosophy' :— "Sir Francis Bacon observes, in his 'Natural Philosophy,' that our taste is never pleased better than with those things which at first created a disgust in it. He gives particular instances, of claret, coffee, and other liquors, which the palate seldom approves upon the first taste, but, when it has once got a relish of them, generally retains it for life." This quotation is first given in an essay by DARK ROOM IN PHOTOGRAPHY.—I am informed by Mr. Herbert Awdry that Henry Fox Talbot, the inventor of the method of producing by photography any number of prints on paper from a negative on glass, resided at Lacock Abbey, and that the first dark room used in this process c. 1838, was an early English crypt there. This fact seems to be of sufficient interest for a note. Durham. J. T. F. ROBERT AGASSIZ.-Comte Marquiset is engaged on a life of the famous French actress of the First Republic, Mlle. Langes. Information is sought as to Mr. Robert Agassiz. who is connected with her story, and is said to have been a London banker. The name is best known in connexion with American science, but was originally Swiss. HISTORICUS. the leaf. HERRICK ON THE YEW.-What does ROBINSON CRUSOE'S LITERARY DESCENDHerrick mean by the epithet "crispèd "wrinkled ANTS. (See Crusoe Richard Davis,' 10 S. yew"? Southey writes of a xi. 425.)-To this list can be added "The holly," evidently alluding to the edge of Adventures of Philip Quarll, the English Yew leaves are straight. But Hermit, who was discovered by Mr. Dor- the general effect of a yew tree, especially rington on an Uninhabited Island, where he of some varieties, is often crinkly when had lived upwards of Fifty Years. London: battered by wind and rain. I am inclined Printed by and for Hodgson & Co., 10, to think it is this general effect that struck Newgate Street. Sixpence." with folding Herrick-Milton, too, when he wrote in hand-coloured frontispiece in compartments 'Comus':dated July 22, 1823. This, unlike Crusoe Richard Davis,' is on the same lines as Along the crispèd shades and bowers. COLERIDGE'S LECTURES ON SHAKESPEARE. EDWARD, DUKE OF YORK, AND MISS -Dykes Campbell, in a foot-note to p. 184 of his 'Life of Coleridge,' states, in reference to the 1811-12 course of lectures on Shakespeare, that "more extended reports of the first eight lectures, by a Mr. Tomalin, have recently been discovered, and may yet be published." Can any reader of N. & Q.' inform me as to the whereabouts of these reports? J. SHAWCROSS. AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED. 1. The iron dogs, the fuel, and the tongs, The fire-brands, ashes, and the smoke, Do all to righteousness provoke. FLOOD.-In contemporary newspapers it is MUNRO OF NOVAR.-According to Leaves from the Note-Books of Lady Dorothy 2. Monsters of imagination, begotten upon a cloud Nevill,' the very fine collection of pictures of of Statistics. (This is before 1860.) Munro of Novar was sold in order to help I should like to know what the MS. Coll. Arms 1st M. 14, f. 29, from which there is Handbook' (p. 91), says of the embalming. an excerpt in the English Church Pageant Henry V. died at Vincennes in 1422. a sermon ; "with rules DUELS BETWEEN WOMEN.-In The Town and Country Magazine, xvii. 626, there is a story of a duel between Miss Roach or Le ST. SWITHIN. Roche, afterwards Lady Echlin (see 10 S. xi. 501), and another lady, who is styled REV. JONATHAN CLAPHAM. Jonathan "the Fair Hibernian." Again, in The Clapham was instituted Rector of WrampCarlton House Magazine for August, 1792, lingham by the King in 1660. Previously vol. i. p. 359, it is stated that "Lady Almeria he had published three works: Braddock and Mrs. Elphinstone had not a vindication of psalm-singing, long ago an affair of honour in Hyde Park, to direct weak Christians how to sing to first with pistols, and afterwards with edification"; and a 'Discovery....of the swords." Possibly these anecdotes were Damnable Doctrines of the Quakers.' intended to be facetious, and as I have Little else is known of him. I should be never come across any corroboration I glad of any information bearing on his regard them with suspicion. Is there a parentage and history. reference to such an incident in any other contemporary publications? HORACE BLEACKLEY. Was he the same Jonathan Clapham who in 1684 published a sermon 'Christian Obedience Recommended'?' Obedience to Magis trates,' a sermon on the same text, Titus historian, for thirty years Treasurer of the iii. 1 (1683), is by the British Museum Congregational Union of England and Wales. Catalogue ascribed in one place to Jonathan Clapham, and in another page to John Chapman. Replies direct will oblige. J. HAMBLEY ROWE, M.B. 83, Grange Road, Bradford. ROBERT NEWMAN, ENGRAVER.-I should be very much obliged for any information relating to the above. He was born at Wincanton, Somerset, in 1768, and I believe was of some repute; but I can find nothing further about him, and his name does not appear in the ordinary books of reference. W. P. D. S. BUTTERWORTH : ITS DERIVATION.-Will any of your contributors kindly inform me what is the origin or meaning of this placename? Butterworth is a part of the borough of Rochdale, and from it all people of that name more or less claim to spring. Col. Fishwick in his ' History of Rochdale,' p. 114, gives an ancient spelling or reading of the name as Botterwort.' 66 Dr. Colby March in his 'Rochdale PlaceNames' writes that Butterworth, formerly Botwerth and Botesworth, 1270, is from Norse buthor, the bittern. "Worth is a fenced field or farm (allied to N. garth, A.-S. yard). Canon I. Taylor says that in Buttermere, Butterhill, and Buttergill we have the N. Christian name Buthar. Mr. H. Brierley (who was connected with Rochdale), in a lecture he gave last March at Rochdale, 'On Places and Surnames,' stated as follows: Mr. Hanbury died at 16, Gloucester Villas, Brixton, in 1864, leaving all his property to his only daughter, Mary Ann. The latter was living at Brixton in 1868, but not in 1870. I cannot trace when she died, nor what became of her father's books. W. J. C. relatives now living ? Are any 66 AGRI. "BRANNE AND WATER : BREAD AND WATER.-In the villages near when I was a child it was a rare event for any one to be taken to the Bastile," as the workhouse It was was then called by every one. general opinion, too, that often they were put on a bread-and-water' diet; why, however, none seemed to know. Is there "Butterworth was absolutely allied to Roch-any early mention of bread and water as a dale. He never knew any one of that name anywhere else who did not claim relationship with Rochdale. In the Peninsular War the soldiers of that name from Lancashire used to say, 'We're all Johnny Butterworth's lads.' Butterworth had nothing to do with butter.' It was often spelt Bot or Bedworth, and in Cheshire it was Bud; originally it was 'Bodder,' meaning a messenger." In support of Mr. Brierley's statement I find that Ferguson in his 'Surnames as a Science,' at p. 46, gives "Bod, Bud," as envoy," and includes in this section O.G. Botthar; Botterus, Domesday; Eng. Butter, Buttery. 66 Butterton, a village in Staffordshire on the borders of Derbyshire, may be allied with Butterworth. W. H. VAUGHAN. BENJAMIN HANBURY'S LIBRARY.-I should be glad of any information which might help me to find what became of the library of Benjamin Hanbury, the Nonconformist diet for poor persons, other than prisoners ? life would be more intolerable than on bread 158; 8 S. vi. 365; ix. 398.)—The subject of 1. This is a coloured lithograph of the action, and is entitled Combat entre la 66 66 Surveillante et le Quebec, 1783,' and is the more interesting in that it is the only one from a French source that I have come across. It was Dessiné et lith. par Ferd. Perrot,' Publié par Vor Delarue & Cie, Place du Louvre 10," Paris; and "Imprimé par Lemercier à Paris." I shall be glad of some information about Ferd. Perrot, and to learn where the original of the lithograph is to be seen, or was exhibited. The date of the engagement was 6 Oct., 1779. 2. This is a small engraving entitled 'The Heroism of Capt. Farmer,' and gives one the impression that it was once an illustration to some book. It is drawn by R. Smirke, engraved by T. Tagg, and was published 21 April, 1810, by J. Stratford, 112, Holborn Hill. Can any one tell me anything about the original ? If I am correct in thinking that it formed an illustration to a book, in what book did it URLLAD. appear? 'THE SAILOR'S CONSOLATION.'-Was this song written by Charles Dibdin or William The first verse is : Pitt? : One night came on a hurricane, When Barney Buntline slewed his quid, "A strong nor' wester 's blowing, Bill, I do not know anything about William Pitt, except that he was a dockyard superintendent in the West Indies and afterwards at Malta, and that he died in 1840. In A Book of Verse for Boys and Girls' published at the Clarendon Press the lines are attributed to Charles Dibdin. Liverpool. THOS. WHITE. on "WHAT THE DEVIL SAID TO NOAH."At a meeting of the Church Reform League at the Church House, Westminster, 18 June the Rev. J. G. McCormick, Vicar of St. Paul's, Prince's Park, Liverpool, warned the Church against laissez-faire by telling this story: "I said to the village umpire at a cricket match, in reference to the weather, 'It looks as if it 's going to clear up.' 'Ah ! replied the umpire, that's what the Devil said to Noah.' I think," commented Mr. McCormick, the same gentleman is always saying that to the Church." 66 66 Is What the Devil said to Noah " a current proverbial saying, or was it a momentary invention of the umpire? is not in the 'Dialect Dictionary.' J. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL. It 66 MR. R. H. THORNTON asks for proof of the early use of campus " in England in the sense of "playing-field." In Act II. sc. i. of the play "How a Man may choose a Good Wife from a Bad,' first published in 1602, and reprinted in Dodsley's 'Old Plays (ed. Hazlitt, vol. ix. p. 26), a schoolboy is made to say :— Forsooth my lesson's torn out of my book...... Truly forsooth I laid it in my seat While Robin Glade and I went into campis. The use is no doubt due to the custom of making schoolboys talk Latin. G. C. MOORE SMITH. "Brills " is defined in Jamieson's' Scottish Dictionary as spectacles in general, but more strictly double-pointed ones. Campus. Mackenzie, History of Newcastle (published in 1827), describing a disused Dissenters' burying-ground in Percy Street in that town, adds: "It now forms the Campus Martius of the young gentlemen belonging to Mr. Bruce's Academy. The gravestones are preserved in the surrounding walls." RICH. WELFORD. |