about the pool and in camping on the island, &c. They asked me once who Morgan was, whom the little boys were always saying they were to be careful against. An old man living at Tal Llyn, "Lakes End," a farm close by, says that as a boy he was always told that "naughty boys would be carried off by Morgan into the lake." Others tell me that Morgan is always held to be ready to take off troublesome children, and somehow Morgan is thought of as a bad one.' There is more, but any one interested had better see the book. Ulverston. S. L. PETTY. The name of Grimshaw was a bugbear to children in the latter part of the eighteenth century. He was Incumbent of Haworth, near Bradford, the home of the Brontës. Macaulay in his essay on Warren Hastings tells us : "Even now, after the lapse of more than 50 years, the natives still talk of him as the greatest of the English; and nurses sing children to sleep with a jingling ballad about the fleet horses and richly caparisoned elephants of Sahib Warren Hastein." JOHN PICKFORD, M.A. Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge. ARCHBISHOP BLACKBURNE (10 S. xi. 508). -I am sorry to have to inform our friend the REV. JOHN PICKFORD that there is no monument or stone to mark the place of the burial of the above-named prelate in the church of St. Margaret, Westminster, nor, so far as I can trace, has there ever been one. Walcott, in his 'History of the Parish Church of St. Margaret,' 1847, gives a list of 61 'monuments lost or destroyed," collected from various sources, covering a long series of years, but does not record one to this archbishop. 66 It may be worth notice that there are in this church monuments to two well-known prelates, viz., Laurence Womack, D.D., Lord Bishop of St. David's, died 12 March, 1685, aged 73, and John Leng, Lord Bishop of Norwich, died 26 Oct., 1727, aged 62. Walcott gives the following extract from the registers: 1743. April 1. Dr. Lancelot Blackburn, La Archbishop of York." W. E. HARLAND-OXLEY. Westminster. 66 sack; and explained in my Concise Eng. Etym. Dict,' ed. 1901 (previous editions are obsolete), under both Ransack and Rest (1)—the Gothic spelling being razn. WALTER W. SKEAT SWEDISH PAINTERS IN ENGLAND (10 S. xi. 467, 514).-In December, 1700, John Hervey, 1st Earl of Bristol, paid Cotton for his master Daula (sic) 10. 15s. for a threequarters portrait of his wife. In May, 1711, he paid Michael Dahl 217. 10s. for another the one which was engraved by J. Simon. portrait of his wife. I think this must be It belonged to Lord Howard de Walden, who died in 1868, and was sold at Christie's in 1869. I do not know where it went. In April, 1714, Lord Bristol paid Hans Hysing 167. 2s. 6d. "for several copies of pictures and altering others, and an original portrait of Babel ye musician." In August, 1715, he paid him 6l. 98. "for my dear wife's picture which I gave ye Countess of Pickbourg." I do not know where this is 66 : Salmagundi a Weekly Hash, prepared on board the Light Brigade, on her Voyage from London to Brisbane, in the Year 1863. Henry Evans, Commander. Edited by a Passenger. Nulli Secundus. London: John Wilson, 93, Great Russell Street. 1863. Price one florin." 8vo, 300 copies, pp. 50. "BROKENSELDE (10 S. xi. 10, 58, 110, 172, 233, 517).-No doubt the berne in barn." berne-selde is the usual M.E. berne, And there is no difficulty about Aernselde. I suppose the Ae to be merely a playful printer's variant of E. The reference is to the A.-S. ærn, a cot," duly explained On the same vessel and the same voyage in the 'N.E.D.' s.v. Earn, a place, dwelling, a similar weekly periodical was circulated, hut"; common in compounds. It is still called The Mainstay, 8vo, afterwards common in the form ran- in the word ran-printed in London. 66 66 D. J. "After forty years of marriage a ruby wedding is legitimate, and seventy-five justify diamonds." At 7 S. iii. 218 the late EVERARD HOME COLEMAN gave a list of wedding anniversaries, proceeding by fives up to the fiftieth and then a jump to the seventy-fifth. In this list the fortieth is "Woollen," and the thirtieth "Cotton"; but for the latter my cutting has "Pearl." There was some years ago a controversy as to the "Diamond celebration of a wedding-whether it was the sixtieth anniversary or the seventy-fifth. left Wincanton for Bonningham, and that the firm of engravers in London originated with him. An engraving of Wincanton was done by him when he was twenty-nine. It is at sight 10 in. by 7 in., and inscribed : "Engraved by R Newman, from a sketch made by him on the spot. S. W. View of Wincanton, Somersetshire. Dedicated to R. Messiter, Esq., of Wincanton by his most obedient servant Robt. Newman. London, published 18th May, 1797, by Robt. Newman, Engraver, No. 1, Charles Street, Hatton Garden." Wincanton. GEORGE SWEETMAN. DR. JOHNSON'S UNCLE HANGED (10 S. xi. 429, 495; xii. 12).-I have much pleasure in answering MR. F. A. RUSSELL'S question respecting my query. It was based on Miss Seward's well-known letter to Boswell, which is quoted in Mr. E. V. Lucas's book, 'A Swan and her Friends,' p. 247. I did not mean to imply that I believed the statement, for I think most people will said of Dr. Johnson ought to be regarded agree that everything which "the Swan" with the utmost caution. ROBERT NEWMAN, ENGRAVER (10 S. xii. 9). He was baptized at Wincanton on 3 July, 1768, being grandson of Ralph and Ann Newman, and son of Robert and Mary. HORACE BLEACKLEY. He was the eldest child of nine (five sons and four daughters). The last survivor of PAN-GERMANIC PRESS (10 S. xi. 447).— that generation was buried at Wincanton Alldeutsche Blätter, herausgegeben vom All12 July, 1853. An ancestor of Robert was deutschen Verbande, erscheint wöchentlich a leading man in Wincanton in 1638. A Steglitzer Strasse 77, Berlin W. 35, 19ter lineal descendant is now living at Wey-Jahrgang. mouth. I have understood that Robert] Paris. H. GAIDOZ. 6 "HAUGHENDO": FYLDE OATH (10 S. xi. 509). Haughendo, for auchten-dole; lit. eighth part," is explained in the Eng. Dial. Dictionary,' s.v. haughendole; and in the New Eng. Dictionary,' s.v. eightin-dole. Some account of the A.-S. h, M.E. gh, is given at p. 92 of my Primer of English Etymology.' The usual rule is that it is lost after a long vowel, and became f after a short one. The o in A.-S. dohtor, daughter," was short, which accounts for an f; but was usually lengthened, which accounts for the loss of the guttural. "Sough not only became suff," but gave the modern "surf." But here the vowel was shortened; it was originally long. WALTER W. SKEAT. 66 " " 66 good, in honour of his native English MR. G. M. TAYLOR is quite right in surmising that in "laughter and daughter a COMETS (10 S. xi. 489; xii. 15).—Some guttural sound was the original. În Tudor few years ago a Yorkshire lad at Christmastimes the augh words were sounded gutturally time, playing at Pope Joan, used words to throughout England, but for the last three this effect: Why, this is what at home centuries the capital has substituted af, and we call comète.' He pronounced the ''kumát ' or the guttural, retreating further and further word either as kumáit," I north, has been all but extirpated from forget which, but the accent was strongly English speech by the widening influence of on the second syllable. Thinking that the the grammar schools:name might possibly have been introduced from Spain, I looked into Baretti's Spanish dictionary, where I found: Cométa, 1, comet; 2, kite; 3, kind of game at cards." G. Č. BILLESDON. La grammaire, qui sait régenter jusqu'aux rois, Et les fait, la main haute, obéir à ses lois. Such names as Baughan, Faugh, Featherstonhaugh, Maughanby, are all pronounced with the sound of f. It is proper to add that a similar change has taken place in certain Irish names, which has even affected the orthography. We find beside the old historic names O'Morchoe and O'Donoghue the Anglicized corruptions Murphy and Dunphy. JAS. PLATT, Jun. FRED. G. ACKERLEY. Grindleton Vicarage, Clitheroe. FOUNDERS OF THE CITY OF NORFOLK, VIRGINIA (10 S. xi. 489).-Pending a full reply to MR. HIBGAME'S query, which I trust will be sent to N. & Q.,' the following items may be of service. The records of the settlement of Norfolk County exist only in MS., in the Clerk's Office there. A history of Norfolk, &c., was published in Philadelphia, 1853, by Wm. S. Forrest: he states that the name was given by its first explorer, Col. Thoro LUCIFER MATCH (10 S. xi. 427).—See also JOHN WALKER, THE INVENTOR OF THE 8 S. iii. 466; iv. 70, 134, 177, 273. At the second reference the late PROF. TOMLINSON said that 66 to name one man as the inventor of the lucifer match " could only result from ignorance. Although I fell under the Professor's ban on this occasion, I none the less welcomed his erudite remarks on the subject and also those which followed. At the sale of the Bidwell collection of lamps and candlesticks at Messrs. Puttick's rooms on 3 July, 1906, an original box of "R. Bell's Improved Lucifers," containing thirty matches and the original sandpaper, realized nineteen shillings. England,' pp. 175-6; Planché, Conqueror and his Companions,' ii. 180). Walter also obtained part of the fief of his wife's uncle Robert "Dispensator Robertus Dispensator frater Ursonis de Abbetot," as he is styled in a charter of the Empress Maud to William de Beauchamp, son of Walter (Geoffrey de Mandeville,' pp. 313-14). Robert's fief was, however, divided between the Beauchamps and the Marmions (Feudal England,' pp. 176, 194-5, 214). This led Mr. Round to suggest that Urse d'Abetot may have had another daughter, married to Robert Marmion (ibid., p. 176). "Urso " and Ursus are, of course, only Latinized forms of Urse, who, it may be added, was never "Earl of Worcester." I believe that no connexion has been proved between the above Walter de Beauchamp and Hugh de Beauchamp, founder of the Bedford line (Conqueror and his Companions,' ii. 180). Lowestoft. G. H. WHITE. GROOM'S COFFEE-HOUSE (10 S. xi. 145).— According to The Daily Telegraph of 12 Februrary last, Groom's coffee and chop house, next door to "The Rainbow," Fleet Street, was sold at the Auction Mart on 11 February for 1,600l. With it went the special recipe for the making of coffee, a secret, or supposed to be one. The lease from Christ's Hospital had seven years to run, at a ground rent of 521. 108. per annum, with sundry small additional payments for insurance and in lieu of land tax. The net profits for the past few years were said to approximate to 500l. per annum. The Groom family set up their coffee house in 1700. ROBERT PIERPOINT. BEEZLEY (10 S. ix. 269, 338; xi. 475).-I thank MR. PIERPOINT for his reference. Bacon's Cycling Map locates the Sussex border about 2 miles east of Petersfield, and also the village of Rogate, which is undoubtedly in Sussex, about 4 miles east of that place. Bevan's 'Tourist's Guide to Hampshire' gives the distance between Petersfield and Rogate as 4 miles. I have on more than one occasion walked the distance in an hour and ten minutes; therefore I should say that 8 miles from Petersfield to the Sussex border is incorrect. F. K. P. CARSTARES OR CARSTAIRS (10 S. xi. 290, 397, 497).-The Rev. James B. Johnstone in his 'Place-Names of Scotland,' 1892, has some interesting observations on this name. He says: "The joy of the paleontologist when he cracks open a limestone nodule and finds therein a magnificent Productus, every curve and line of the shell perfect, is hardly greater than the satisfaction of the historical philologist when he first discovers that a puzzling and prosaic name like Carstairs originally was Casteltarres' (sic, c. 1170), Terras being a familiar Scotch surname to this day. Even yet all will not be well unless the student also knows that the oldest usage of the word 'castle' in English was as a translation of the Vulgate's castellum, where castellum means always, not a fortress, but a village. Thus Carstairs, if dressed in Saxon garb, would be Tarreston, in Norman garb Tarresville."-Introduction, p. xv. "Carstairs (Lanarkshire). In 1170, Casteltarres; in 1592, Carstairs. O.E. castel (or G. caisteal) Terras, 'T.'s castle or fort'; but see Castlebay. Terras is still a Sc. surname; and cf. Tarrisholme,' 1376, in Liddesdale."—Ibid., p. 59. J. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL. 66 a humorous -The 'N.E.D.' defines this as phrase for ever so far off, some very out-ofthe-way place." The first instance given of its use is from Scott's Antiquary' (1816): "You whirled them to the back of beyont to look at the auld Roman camp." De Quincey describes the phrase as smart American adage." 66 66 WALTER B. KINGSFORD. United University Club. This adverbial expression means "at a In Scotland it is synonygreat distance." mous with "fer outby." The term occurs At the in the following ludicrous phrase, back-o'-beyont, where the grey mare fouled the fiddler," i.e., threw him off in the dirt. Jamieson says that in Roxburgh, when a person is asked where he got such a thing, and does not choose to tell, he answers that back-o'-beyont." It is he got it at the " used satirically, when one pretends not to believe the account given by another of the place where he met with anything. TOM JONES. [MR. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL also refers to 'The Antiquary.'] CARLYLE AND FREEMASONRY: RICHARD born later), so that John Gerrard Fleetwood, CARLILE (10 S. xi. 370, 437; xii. 13).- who died at Leeds, must have been born I have an earlier edition than 1836, the date after it was made. given by Mr. RALPH THOMAS. The title page shows :— Carlile's Manual of Freemasonry' was originally in three separate parts at five shillings each, Parts I. and II. appearing in 1836, and Part III. in 1837. The last named was printed and published by Alfred Carlile, Water Lane, Fleet Street. In this earlier form the volumes are of interest to collectors of Masonic and anti-Masonic literature, but later they were much altered and had some vogue as quasi-authoritative manuals. I have not heard of their being of great value, and very much doubt the story of their being bought up and destroyed. In some correspondence I had with the late Mr. Holyoake he expressed the opinion that the best life of Carlile was that written by his daughter. ALECK ABRAHAMS. "" "RHOMBUS (10 S. xi. 448, 518).—I regret that per incuriam I included in my reply the words "and remains to be solved." I was momentarily misled by Smith's mention of the fish before the geometrical figure. Winterton, Doncaster. J. T. F. FLEETWOOD OF CALWICH, CO. STAFFORD (10 S. xi. 183).-In The Town and Country Magazine, viii. 503, the following death, on 20 July, 1776, is reported : "Mr. John Gerrard Fleetwood (son of Charles Fleetwood, Esq., late patentee of Drury Lane Theatre) at Leeds, a performer in the York company of comedians." This is the ensign referred to by R. W. B., and as his son Lieut. John Gerrard Fleetwood, R.N., was living in 1811, the Calwich baronetcy did not become extinct at the death of Sir Thomas Fleetwood in 1802. Charles Fleetwood, the Drury Lane patentee, mentions only two sons, Charles and Thomas, in his will, dated 20 July, 1743 (though provision is made for children As Lieut. J. G. Fleetwood, R.N., had children living in 1811, it is possible there may be male representatives now alive descended from him; but whether their ancestor was the male next of kin to Sir Thomas, who died in 1802, is still an open question. The widow of the Drury Lane patentee married Francis Hayman, R.A., and there was one daughter born of this marriage. F. M. R. HOLWORTHY. Bromley, Kent. BENJAMIN HANBURY'S LIBRARY (10 S. xii. 9). This library was sold at Messrs. Puttick & Simpson's, 20-22 April, 1864. A copy of the sale catalogue, with prices and names of purchasers, may be consulted at the British Museum (Newspaper Room). W. ROBERTS. SIR CUTHBERT SLADE, Bт. (10 S. xi. 508). -The second baronet, Sir Frederic William Slade (1801-63), Q.C. and Bencher of the Middle Temple, married Barbara, sister of George, Lord Vaux of Harrowden, in whose pedigree the descent may be found-through the Nevilles, I am told. A descent from the English Justinian, Edward I., is not an uncommon distinction. A. R. BAYLEY. |