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to give to this proceeding, on the part of and reason of the nation were to be silenced Sir Francis Burdett, the character of fuctinn. by the use of this name; just as if it had Of faction! What, is it factious to maiu- any thing to do with the High Bailiff of tain, or to endeavour to maintain, the uno Westminster suing Sir Francis Burdett for deniable principles of that constitution, for the expenses of taking the election. And, the preservation of which we are called as to malice, was there any malice in his upon to spend our "last shilling, and to asking the advice of the Honourable House ? " shed our last erop of blood ?" Not a day

He did no more. If the House advised him passes over our heads but we are reminded to pay the demand ; if they advised him to of the excellence of this constitution, and submit to be punished for having obeyed the of the shame and infamy and nuisery which king's command, in taking his sealt, why there would speedily follow its destruction. it was ; he would have paid the money ;

for Agreed ! Perfectly agreed! And what does he made no complaint, and said that the Sir Francis Burdett ask, but the practice of payment was a matter of perfect indifference this very constitution ; being, doubtless, of to him. I should suppose, that the Hofixed opinion, that, if laws are not observ- nourable House would have considered it ed, they are, in fact, destroyed, as to all as a compliment to its wisdom, to have its their good purposes, and that they insensibly advice asked upon such a matter, particularly become instruments of deception and op- as Sir Francis stated, that it was purely from pression; that they cast forth darkness and tenderness for the honour of the flonourable misery, instead of light and bappiness? - House, and from a fear of incurring their It being evident, that, generally speaking, displeasure, that he had asked their advice. inen pursue tirst their private interests, it But, there are some men, whom nothing follows, that, if men expend money for the will please. Censure them, and they call purpose of obtaining seats in parliament, you abusive ; pay a compliment to their they bare it in view to get a large profit by feelings, and they say you are malicious. such expenditure, and will, of course, use! POPULATION. In another part of this the means of securing such protit. "The sheet will be found a l'ost Script from Mr. kind of protit mardifer. Sone may prefer Arthur Yomg, froin which I perceive, and baubles io herd solid cash ;- ini, the ertect, with unfeigned sorrow, that that gentleas to the nation, will be pretty nearly the man is very angry with me, who certainly same, in the end. And, this being the never intended to give him any offence.Case, it is quite clear, that whoever wishes I sait, in the passage, to wirich he alludes to see a corrupt Ilouse of Commons, will (see page 70g of this volume), that I knew surel: ive an advocate for expensin elections. of no return to the population act, whiclı

Due thing surprize me not a little, could enable Ir. Young to state what was and iliat ras, that the l'igs, the famous dre population of England and Wales in the advocates for PARLIAMENTARY RETORM, year 1720. It appears, from what he now did not say one word, when Sir Francis says, that there was a calculation made upon called upon the who House for 3;lvice. the subject, by a Mu. PICKMAX, who was They had, formerly, prepared rery elabo. appointed to collect and make an abstract of rate schemes for the causing of elections to the parochial returns; and it is, it seems, be free; and, one would have expected upon this calculation that Mr. Young makes it was not, certainly', too much to espect; his statement. The act required, that the that, when they say, that there and been several rectors, vicia, chrates, &c. &c. one free election in Engrant, one really free should make out returns, Ist, of the numelection, they would bare found some means ber of inhabited blouses and families, and or other of edging in a word in approbation uninbabited houses; 2d, of the total numof it, even if ibey had abstainiot from ber of persons, exclusive of soldiers and saying any thing upon the subject of that sailors ; erd, of the number of persons emadvice which the Biriner was co anxious to ploved in trade, manufactures, or handiobtain. But, alas? they hall, in the faca crutt; 4th, of the number of baptisms and interim, been in power themselves. They burials, at stated perieris, from 1700 to themselves hád isted of the horley; and, 1500; and 5th, of the number of marriages which was of more weight in the intinencing in each year, from 1754 down wards to of their conduct, they hoped, though in 1800. lrom these returns Mr. Rickman vain I believe, to taste of it again. The

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upon the answers to the 4th and 5th ques- by the farmers themselves, and that the tions ; but, I must see those answers before labouring man who used to drink beds, I can form any judgment as to the probability

by's che excise-laws, Beéi driven of Mr. Rickman's being able w make a to the well or the pump!'"ili is, in almost all calcolation upon them. I should think, cases, the many who make the consumption from what I have seen and what I liave as well as the cteation of things. To be heard, that it is quite impossible to obtain, sure we now see some huge breweries, which except in some cases, correct answers have arisen out of the Walpoliau system the fourth and fifth questions; and, if there (for ever accursed!); but we do not con had not been some very great difficulty attendo sider, that a miilion of little breweries have ing it, how comes it that Mr. Rickman been annihilated. Now you will not bad a did not include those answers in bis general man, who lives by his daily labour, brew abstract ? If the parish books had been his own beer ; formerly it was as rare lo -kept in such a way as to enable the Rector, meet with one who did not. This is the .&c. to make out the answers at all, those great cause of a falling off in the grtántity answers could have been made out much of inalt made in England. There is not so much sooner than the auswers to the former ques- beer drunk by those who formerly drank beer

. tions. But, my opinion is, that the ans. That the population has been increasing since wers to the 4th and 5th questions could not the Revolution is probable; the long and bloody be made out, except in the way of guess, struggles, and the uncertainty of property, for any period farther back than furty or from about 1645 to 1080, 'must 'bare greatly fifty years. Then comes the calculation; and diminished the population of the coptity; though the principle of that calculation inay but, my arguments of the large churches

, be fair enough, yet, when we consider, how &c., apply to a fornier period, and were used those religious sects haye gradually dininish- | merely for tlie-purpose of shewing, that ett, who neither buried nor baptised in the the land of England is capable of supportChurch of England, it is evident that the ing a much greater number of persons than materials for such a calculation must be very it now has to support.A correspondent defective. In short, I look upon “such a (I.T.), whose letter will be found in another calculation to prove nothing, especially part of this sheet, brings nie, back, for a when I consider the motive by which the moment to the corn and sugar question. !

employers of Mr. Rickman were actuated think I know the hand-writing; and, if I in the whole of the undertaking. - My am right in that respect, I look upon this decayed towns and villages; my large letter as no bad proof of my having, in my churches and handful of parishioners; and endeavours as to this matter, been successo my down-sides, once cultivated with such ful; for, the writer tells me, that I hate surprizing labpur and pains, and now, to the convinced him, and I know him to be a amount of millions of acres, lying uncuki- truly independent man; a man who has na vated all these arguments, Mr. Young particular interests at stake, on the one side of says, have been long ago refuted by him. on the other; a man accustomed to

O reason I should, without the least affectation, be accurately, and to decide with great delibemuch obliged to him for a reference to the ration and care; the man, of all men whom · particular part of his useful works, where I know in the world, whose judgment the refutation is to be found; for, at present, would wish, upon any question whatever, I am thoroughly convinced, that this coun- to have upon my 'side ; because I know, try was once much more populous than it that, to great talents and wisdom, he joins pow is, , How is it possible to account for, an impartiality which no consideration can the existence of a church capable of con- warp. I, as well as he, could have wishtaining a thousand people, in a place where ed, and, indeed, now wisb, to see the inthe babitations now consist of a farm house tended bilt merely a bill of permission Re or two and a few miserable buts, scarcely strictions upon trade are, ninety-nine times fit for men to dwell in? How is it possible out of a hundred, impolitic, and not unfres to account for this in any other way than quently unjust ; and. I am of opinion, that that of a decrease in the population

better for the still am of opinion, however, that the Planters now to open a conipetition to thero

, question of population had nothing at all to and leave their sugar (unloaded with previous do with that of corn and sugar ; for, if it duties) to vie with the barley. With great uid appear, that, in proportion to the popus deference to IT, I must; however, say: lation, more malt was made formerly than that I ihink it carrying the notion of an is is now made, what would be the evident pose facto law

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be nade to give way to the general good. | able to bave a great market dinner, I answer,

There can be no doubt that she particu- that though they, doubtless, are, quite able to lar interests of the distillers would sutter from bear the expense, yet, they are not always able

the stoppage of their trade, in times of scare to findoutanexcuse forit that will satisfythem. ..city; but, such a measure would certainly seives, and, which is of infinitely greater imbe proper, and could not, reasonably, be portance, that will satisfy their wives, who complained of as an ex post facto lawy. are very much addicted to reckon such There are, hear, petitions coming forward expenses as so much subtracted from those in favour of the intended measure ; so that enjoyments, of which they are justly entithe House will tipd the subject ready discus-ted to a share.As a farmer's frolic, sed to their hands. This premature discus- therefore; as a little truantsbip from the sjou is, however, the work of the barley. dominion of the petticoat, the thing was, growers. They began it, and they have, perhaps, excuseable, and brother Scut might Rhink, deprived themselves of that chance have inerit in the invention; but, it be of success, which want of time for thought carried the jest sq far as to patch up, from would have given thein. Nothing, surely, ten times borrowed resolutions, a manifesto was ever more indecent than the opposition against an intended act of parliament, then which they commenced. The report was he exposed his clients to the contempt of not pripted uutil ten days after they began their more sober and sensible neighbours. to call meetings and to condearn the mea- -Of this description are, I dare say, sure. It was, therefore, impossible for them almost the whole of the meetings we have to be acquainted with the evidence, upon read of, in the several counties. It is the which the committee had made its report to large farmers only who assemble ; large the House, and yet they, in terms the most farmers do not work themselves ; Hey love unqualified, set up a clamorous condeauna- a jovial dinner ; they keep brave borses lo tion. There has been, I perceive, a meet- ride ; and a day of frolic beyond the aniing of Yeomen farmers, at Winchester, coo- madversion of the petticoat, is a day snatchsisting, certainly, of very respectable men, ed from fate. This is the light, in which I, as far as the list of names at the bottom were I a nember of parliament, should of the advertisement, enables me to judge ; view these manifestoes. I should trace them but, it is with no small satisfaction that. I to their first causes ; I should see the attorunderstand, that Sir Henry Mildmay was ney, or his clerk, copying ilem from old not present. It is no derogatiou from his newspapers, and, of course, - should be character to say, that I believe him to have very careful how I regarded them as containspoken against the measure, without full ing the real sentiments of even the persons consideration ; and; I shall be very glad to by whom they were subscribed. see, that tiine has altered his opinion, and MR. Palmer, After much talking has induced him to retract an error, into about, this gentleman's case is again before which any man miglii huve fallen. As to parliainent ; and it must give satisfaction to his colleague, what he may happen to do is, every lover of fair dealing to see that justice, ' with me at least, a matter of very little im- or something like justice, is, at last, to be portance. The meeting at Winchester done him. The short view of bis case is was so nieagrely aftended as to excite, very lit- this :--He was the author of that excel. tle interest. It was, in all probability, sug. lent plan of conducting the post-office of gested hy some businessless attorney, on the the kingdom, which is admired by all those preceding market-day, as the means of in- who have considered it, and the advantages suring tu himself, fúr once in his life-time, of which to the nation have been'immense, a good hearty dinner of roast-beef and in all the ways, in wbich an establishment plumb-pudding, at which, in compensation of this sort can be advantageous to a nation. for his vigils, he might hait boursi himself lf bis plan succeeded, he was to be reWith jhe juice of the grape', in drinking suc- munerated accordingly, than which nothing cess to the consumption of bailey. Great could be more fair. The clear revenue of care was taken by otficious and faithful the post-office was, before, comparatively, brother Scut, I suppose) to mention the a dritte. . If it fose, in consequence of the dinner in calling the meeting; and, as the adoption of his plan, to a certain amount, most maring, piece of eloquence, this men- he was to receive a certain per centage upon tion was, reseryed, for the close. The truth that ovečplus, But, at the same time, it is, that this meeting, like most others of the

was agreed, that Mr. Palmer shoold be an kind, appears to have been a mere apology otticer in the post-office, under the postHipper i and, i la olam reminded, that

master general, and that he should assist in the seulemev, attending it, are at all times carrying his plan into effect ; for the filling

of which office he was to receive a salary. me; I will turn you out of that office

Thus he began with the public. Ilu erhvnever I phrase:” if this had been said to entered upon his office, and the post-office Mr Palmer ; or, if he bad thought that the revenue speedily attained the amount which agreement could possibly have been made to gave him a per centage. But, sometime pre- receive ibis coristruction, Çan any one ima. vious to the year 1799, he was dismissed gine that he would have communicated his from his office, on account of alledged mis- invention to the goverament. Can any one behaviour; and, upon demanding his per- believe, that a man would have bos encentage, was told, ihat he had failed in ihat ployed liis, own talents and inerits to the part of his bargain, which obliged him to purpose of making himself one of the vilest assist in carrying his plan into execution ; dependents that ever existed upon the face that, therefore, the bargain became void ; of the earth ? -But, the House of Coathat he had no claim to the percentage ; and mons, in 1799, rejected this claim, and there that, of course, he had only to accept of is no new evidence, says Mr. Long, in supa what the minister (wlio bad dismissed him) port of it. Mr. Rose says, that the question chose to give him. Such was the decision was decided in the House, in 1799, by a of Pitt; and I need hardly say, that it was majority of 112 to 28; and, that, if the also the decision of one of his Houses of House now grant the prayer of Mr. Paliver, Commons- The claim has now been re- it “ will shake its honour and character m. ore vived. Mr. George Rose is opposed to " than any thing within his recollection." this intended waste of the pulilic money! Good God! Let the House look to it iben ; And he and his right trusty and well-be- for. ....... but, it is useless to proceed: the loved Mr. Charles Long (Mr. Thomas Steele reader's recollection will fill up the chasm. is not in the House now, I believe,) - This was Pilt's way. When once be reprobate the claim ; insist, that the salary had got the House to do any thing, be used and percentage were to be inseparable ; and, to tell them that they were eternally blasted of course, that Mr. Palmer could claim no if they did not stick to it, and even follow it percentige, useless he kept his office.--- up. I well remember how he used to call say that such was not the bargain ; and ihe for votes upon the sole ground of their having proof is this, that Mr. Palmer was certainly already voted in the same spirit ; and to tell in his senses, and that no man in his senses them, almost in so many words, that they would voluatarily have niade a bargain, were a parcel of inconsistent fellows if they which could be binding only upon himself. boggled at it for a single moment.-- But, He was to have a great reward for a great Mr. Rose, this is anoller parliament. The public service; but, as it was in the alsolute walls are the same; the literal house is the power of the other couiracting party to dis- same; but the figurative house is another, miss him at any moment, it is evident, that, and I wish I could say a very different one. if the claim to the percentage was to cease True, a House of Cóm moos did reject the along with the possession of the office, he clain of Mr. Palmier ; and a House of Comcould not have a moment's security for his mons did pass a bill of attainder against reward. It is an abuse of words to call Russel and Sidney, but another House of such a thing a largain ; and though a sharp Commons repealed hat bill of attainder, a lawyer might get a man to set his hand to it, were not afraid of their honour and character that inust be a villainous court of equity, in being shaken by the act. It is clear; it wbich it would not be overset.-Nr. Pal. wants no proof, no evidence to support the mer might mishehave linsself in his office, fact, that Mr. Palmer never could mean to though I do not believe he did, and I think make his lioped-for and expected reward de lois dismaission is no bad presumptive proof pend upon his continuance in office, or, in of it. But, we all know how many ways other words, upon the nere whiin of the there are, in wbich a man may oftend a mi- minister of the day, let him be who he nister or a minister's jackall; and weallkuow, might. Besides, what was be to be in office that if such ba the case, be is pretty sure to for? Why, to assist in carrying bis plan into be dismissed tromany ottice that he may hold, execution ; to assist in making the plan suc: during that minister's pleasure Isit, therefore, ceeil. Well

, then, the plan, did succeed i probable, that, Mir, Palmer, or any other the public are, aud long liave been, iu pos: man will an understanding above that of an session of its, immense benefits ; oyster or periwinkle, would have made the

there appears to be not the sbadow of an bargain hereken of? If Pitt had said to objection to the claim of the percentage, dini in painkerms:

" You shall have so and this, as far as I understand, is all that is much 3:4oney for your invention, while intended to be grapred.+-1 wish the Pitts 2104 kontinue in such an ice; but, mark and the Longs, and the Roses had been 25

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stout in their resistance of other claims. . more extravagant than the demand o twenty There are £20,000 gone to Dr. Jenner, and guineas for the half of an ox. Mr.Palmer for whut, let the people of Riogwood say. | asks for no more than his due, agreetly to There have been, I believe, . a bundred

the undenied 'erms of what he says is conthousand pounds granted to the negro civi- ! tract. Disprove the contract, and he i, enlizers of Sierra Leone ; and, away goes the titled to nothing; but, if the contrac be scheme in smoke. But here is a scheme recognised, the demand cannot be extrvawhich was sensible and practicable. It has gant. There is, too, in the present case, been tried; it as succeeded : its benefits this peculiar circumstance, that you chave been enjoyed for a series of years ;

knowledge to have gained by the contra'; they are still enjoyed, and will be enjoyed and, that it is only his share of the gniis for ages to come. Here would be a fit object that Mr. Palmer demands.

Had the nation for national liberality ; but, Mr. Palmer lost by the contract ; or, had the gain been asks for none; he only asks for his own;

he matter of doubt, there might bave been merely demands that which is unjustly de- some room for shume. It would have been tained from bim; and, if he is to receive disgraceful, indeed; it would have been no redress from the parliament, from whom abhorrent from the character of Englishınen, is he to receive it, and who will ever trust amongst whom the sacredness of pecuniary the nation again? It is odd enough, that, engagements is inculcated in the common 'when sinecure places are the topic, the per- and emphatical phrase : a bargain is a sons who oppose this claim are amongst the bargain." Still, however, there would foremost to talk of the sacredness of national have been room for some men to shume; but, bargains. Never mind

the amount, say in the present case, I am almost ready to say, they, the place has been granted, and the that I would defy an American to find out a nation must abide by the grant. Tell them pretext før shuffling. of the enormous ainount of the Marquis of Botley, 19th Niuy, 1808. Buckingbani's place : no matter, say they, he has the place, and he must receive the revenue of it, be it what it may. Two years Sır.-In your observations on Mr. Coke's of that place is worth all Mr. Palmer's claim speech to the Norfolki meeting you have

The fact is, I dare say, that this passage.-" Where did Mr. Young, they found Mr. Palmer what they call, in « learn that the number was 5,565,000 in in their Whiteliall slang, an intractable man. 1720 ? Not “ by the return to the act," The man had merit; he could not help or, at least, I never saw or heard of knowing that; and he was incapable of such return. I am of opinion, that he truckling to pompous ignorance. This, I'll “ has now spoken from no better authority engage, was his only sin ; but, it was than that of Gregory King, who, indeed thumper; it was a sin never to be for

was so minute and accurate a gentleman given. It is from such causes that the « that he included in bis estimate the public affairs are so frequently mismanaged. " number of rabbits in England and To be capable of managing them argues the “ Wales.”—Now, Mr. Cobbett, what possession of talents and spirit; and who, right could you bave to accuse me of so that possesses talents and spirit, will quiet- offensive a want of respect to the committee ly submit to the control of that stupidity as to state a matter of information as derived and arrogance, wbich will frequently bear from specitic authority, which, so far from sway where the qualifications for oihce are having foundation, was built only on the

such as I need not describe. vague guesses of a political speculator? Sir, Mr. Bankes, who, it appears, opposes this I did not merit this injurious supposition. claim, did not, any more than Mr. Rose or You have no occasion. to go back to Gregory Mr. Long or Mr. Sturges, oppose the vote King, because, if you will put on your of 40,0001. to pay the debts of Pitt. Nay, spectacles when you next examine the popuNo one opposed it, though, if Sir Francis lation report on the return to the list of Burdett had been in die House, I truse, he the king, you will find a table of progressive would have opposed it. Was that forty throul- staic of population from 1700 to 1801. şand pounds as well merited as the 60,000). But if you knew of this document and now to be paid to Mr. Palmer? There is not rejected it, I leave you to settle that matter

a just man in the kingdom but will answer, with Mr. Rickman I certainly accept his » NO. This, Ma Bankes calls an extrava- authority in decided preference to your

gant demand ; but, it is not the mere amount cases to prove our depopulation ; your of any demand thao makes it extravagant. The ruined towns--your Jarge churches--your demand of a guinea for a pourt of bcet is marks of the plough-your dowo sides

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