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United States,

OVERSIGHT—MOTOR CARRIER ACT OF 1980

(97-87)

HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON SURFACE TRANSPORTATION

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON
PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-SEVENTH CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

JUNE 23; NOVEMBER 30; DECEMBER 1, 1982

Printed for the use of the
Committee on Public Works and Transportation

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U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON : 1983

COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION

JAMES J. HOWARD, New Jersey, Chairman GLENN M. ANDERSON, California

DON H. CLAUSEN, California ROBERT A. ROE, New Jersey

GENE SNYDER, Kentucky JOHN B. BREAUX, Louisiana

JOHN PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT, Arkansas NORMAN Y. MINETA, California

BUD SHUSTER, Pennsylvania ELLIOTT H. LEVITAS, Georgia

BARRY M. GOLDWATER, JR., California JAMES L. OBERSTAR, Minnesota

TOM HAGEDORN, Minnesota HENRY J. NOWAK, New York

ARLAN STANGELAND, Minnesota ROBERT W. EDGAR, Pennsylvania

NEWT GINGRICH, Georgia MARILYN LLOYD BOUQUARD, Tennessee WILLIAM F. CLINGER, JR., Pennsylvania JOHN G. FARY, Ilinois

GERALD B. H. SOLOMON, New York ROBERT A. YOUNG, Missouri

HAROLD C. HOLLENBECK, New Jersey ALLEN E. ERTEL, Pennsylvania

H. JOEL DECKARD, Indiana BILLY LEE EVANS, Georgia

WAYNE GRISHAM, California RONNIE G. FLIPPO, Alabama

JIM JEFFRIES, Kansas
NICK JOE RAHALL II, West Virginia JACK FIELDS, Texas
DOUGLAS APPLEGATE, Ohio

GUY MOLINARI, New York
GERALDINE A. FERRARO, New York E. CLAY SHAW, JR., Florida
EUGENE V. ATKINSON, Pennsylvania BOB MCEWEN, Ohio
DONALD JOSEPH ALBOSTA, Michigan FRANK WOLF, Virginia
WILLIAM HILL BONER, Tennessee
RON DE LUGO, Virgin Islands
GUS SAVAGE, Illinois
FOFO I. F. SUNIA, American Samoa
BUDDY ROEMER, Louisiana
WAYNE DOWDY, Mississippi
BARBARA B. KENNELLY, Connecticut
BRIAN J. DONNELLY, Massachusetts
RAY KOGOVSEK, Colorado

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SUBCOMMITTEE ON SURFACE TRANSPORTATION

GLENN M. ANDERSON, California, Chairman ROBERT W. EDGAR, Pennsylvania

BUD SHUSTER, Pennsylvania ALLEN E. ERTEL, Pennsylvania

GENE SNYDER, Kentucky NICK JOE RAHALL II, West Virginia TOM HAGEDORN, Minnesota DOUGLAS APPLEGATE, Ohio

ARLAN STANGELAND, Minnesota EUGENE V. ATKINSON, Pennsylvania NEWT GINGRICH, Georgia WILLIAM HILL BONER, Tennessee

WILLIAM F. CLINGER, JR., Pennsylvania HENRY J. NOWAK, New York

H. JOEL DECKARD, Indiana ROBERT A. YOUNG, Missouri

JACK FIELDS, Texas BILLY LEE EVANS, Georgia

GUY MOLINARI, New York DONALD JOSEPH ALBOSTA, Michigan E. CLAY SHAW, JR., Florida RON DE LUGO, Virgin Islands

BOB MCEWEN, Ohio GUS SAVAGE, Illinois

DON H. CLAUSEN, California
FOFO I. F. SUNIA, American Samoa

(Ex Officio)
BRIAN J. DONNELLY, Massachusetts
RAY KOGOVSEK, Colorado
JOHN B. BREAUX, Louisiana
JOHN G. FARY, Illinois
BARBARA B. KENNELLY, Connecticut
JAMES J. HOWARD, New Jersey

(Ex Officio)

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CONTENTS

730

TESTIMONY

Augello, William J., executive director/general counsel, Shippers National

Freight Claim Council, accompanied by Robert E. Redding, director of

Federal affairs

Bowers, E. Kenneth, chairman, Legislative Committee, the National Industri-

al Transportation League, accompanied by Walter E. Morgan, manager,

Transportation Policy, Union Carbide Corp.; Stan Sender, league treasurer;

and John F. Donelan, league counsel....

Epstein, Sidney, president, Allied Van Lines, accompanied by Joseph M.

Harrison, president, Household Goods Carriers' Bureau; and Thomas M.

Auchincloss, Jr., Esq., Rea, Cross & Auchincloss, on behalf of Household

Goods Carriers Bureau, Inc....

Harris, William C., president, Michigan & Nebraska Transit Co., Kalamazoo,

Mich., on behalf of the Common Carrier Conference-Irregular Route....

Krueger, Oliver W. Associate Director, Community and Economic Develop-

ment Division, U.S. General Accounting Office, accompanied by Robert Tice

and Jim Blume

Lovell, Malcolm R., Jr., Under Secretary, Department of Labor, accompanied

by Richard Gilliland, Administrator, U.S. Employment Service; and Chip

Aubry, Special Assistant to Assistant Secretary for Policy Evaluation and

Research..

Mann, Kim D., Esq., chairman, Legislative Committee, Motor Carrier Law-

yers Association, accompanied by James F. Flint, vice chairman.
McBrayer, John, Government Liaison, Movers' & Warehousemen's Associ-

ation of America..

Perry, Mark, director, Government Affairs, Owner Operators Independent

Drivers Association of America....

Rastatter, Edward H. Chief, Regulatory Policy Division, U.S. Department of

Transportation, accompanied by Victoria Dailey, senior economist.
Ruane, Dr. T. Peter, president, National Moving & Storage Association, ac-

companied by James B. Larsen, chairman of the board..

Shea, Walter J., executive assistant to general president, International Broth-

erhood of Teamsters, accompanied by James Jesinski, secretary-treasurer,

Teamsters Local Union No. 200, Milwaukee, Wis.; William F. Lyden, vice

president and organizer, Teamsters Local Union No. 25, Boston, Mass.;

George T. Mueller, secretary-treasurer, Teamsters Local Union No. 43,

Racine, Wis.; George T. Rohrer, international representative, Western Con-

ference of Teamsters, Los Angeles, Calif.; W. C. Smith, international repre-

sentative, Southern Conference of Teamsters, Hallandale, Fla.; Norman

Weintraub, chief economist....

Sibila, Ronald R., past president, Mayflower Warehousemen's Association.

Swinburn, Charles, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Policy and International

Affairs, Department of Transportation, accompanied by Edward H. Rastat-

ter, Chief, Regulatory Policy Division, Office of the Secretary

Taylor, Hon. Reese H. Jr., Chairman, Interstate Commerce Commission, ac-

companied by Ray Atherton, Chief of Programs Branch, Office of Compli-

ance and Consumer Assistance; and Jan Rosenak, legislative counsel .........

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